Was he actually thinking that those $450 were just gifted by the exporter?

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    How does this benefit me?

    …and how would it have benefited you, if the seller had to pay it? They would either increase the price for you or never have made the deal.

    Even the thing you expected would have been stupid for you 🤣

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      They probaly thought the seller would pay without raising the price. A lot of these folks don’t know how tariffs work in the first place and when the orange one said it would punish other countries for being unfair to the US they assumed the seller would recognize the error of their ways and foot the bill while keeping the price the same to stay competitive.

      Folks that make complaints like this on social media don’t seem prone to thinking the consequences of an action through…

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      Even the thing you expected would have been stupid for you 🤣

      But this is the key piece of information MAGA fails to realize: if you make things more expensive for the manufacturer, the price goes up so they can remain profitable.

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    The inability to critically think is the first and foremost requirement to be an American conservative.

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    The way it is supposed to work is that they would buy the part from a local manufacturer, thus protecting that manufacturer from foreign competitors. Problem is we got rid of most of our manufacturing in order to break unions and for shareholders to get an extra .0000001% out of their investment. So tariffs now just hurt us.

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    The best thing is that even if the tax was paid by the exporter they would just raise the price of their product accordingly for the import region lol

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      Right? Like, this should be obvious to everyone. Why don’t people immediately see this? It’s crazy.

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    In my home country, the news always mention “could be passed on to consumers” when it’s about import duties. I don’t know what US news tell to Americans for so many consumers to believe they won’t pay a dime on the cost of tariffs.

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      Oh they announced it loudly that it would be passed down to consumers, but some people prefer to watch opinion channels that played it like tariff and import-tax were different.

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    OP is supposed to take their now even less money and start a business/factory/supply chain in america making those things in america so that OP can be extorted by the Trump administration so that Trump can then take OP’s new business from OP.

    C’mon that OP isn’t even trying to understand what is happening.

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    How does this benefit me?

    Is the satisfaction of making dear leader and his rich friends richer not enough for you?

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        Hahaha thank you for the laugh and not only with the golden call back to Zelenskyy!

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      There are plenty of benefits - dei is illegal, trans folks aren’t able to compete in women’s sports, brown people are afraid to go outside. Does that supersede $450? You tell me.

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      Bro… dear leader is sending everyone $2000 for how rich the tariffs made him, and he doesn’t even need congressional approval to do so… much like blowing up random boats in international waters and attempting to steal Greenland.

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      He must be a domestic terrorist or something if he’s not unequivocally grateful for the opportunity to personally enrich dear leader!

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      In theory by making him not buy from a Spanish supplier and choosing a cheaper American one (given the tariffs), strengthening America’s industry, creating a stronger economy that leads to prosperity, better education, healthcare, habitation and salaries.

      IN THEORY

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        of course, a core part of that would be using the tarriff income to subsidize domestic production (and like, helping domestic producers start to exist AT ALL), but uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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    This is literally how tariffs work. They don’t benefit you. They fuck you in your anus. We tried to tell you.

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      It’s all those woke economists’ fault (and literally anyone else who understands anything)!

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      For fairness here, tarrifs can be beneficial and useful when specifically targeted at industries which you can compete globally in with commensurate subsidies. In other words, universal tarrifs is the same as shooting your own nuts off, but targeted tarrifs can be helpful in growing specific industries you can grow.

      All tarrifs are paid by the population of the country doing the tarrifing, but when it’s well thought out and specifically targeted it can be a good thing.

      Lastly, for clarity, fuck trump, what he’s doing is incredibly stupid and will only hurt US citizens.

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        It’s also incredibly stupid that they tariff components.

        If a US company wants to build a dishwasher then they’re probably going to have to buy some parts from China, because the US lacks vertical integration, except they’re not going to because those parts are also tariffed. So you might as well just make the dishwasher in China and pay a single tariff on the whole thing.

        Is it possible that the Trump administration is just made up of idiots?

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        Also: I think it would make more sense for those targeted tariffs to be one of the last steps in creating a home-grown industry, and not one of the first. Rather than slapping down some tariffs and hoping that your captains of industry will build the infrastructure to meet the demand, you’d instead want to subsidize the industry first, and only put the tariffs in place to curb imports once domestic production has ramped up. By applying the tariffs first, you’re just taxing your population with no incentive for change, because the demand doesn’t disappear while waiting for the industry to be built, and the people who might do the building can just pass the import costs on to the consumer anyhow.

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          Don’t forget the damage done by being so wildly inconsistent in maintaining the policy. MAYBE someone would invest in building production to take advantage of the tariff protections. However when you cancel the tariffs a month later, then reinstate them, then lower them, raise them, cancel them, and renew them again like a child mashing buttons, nobody will EVER invest in national production because they can’t expect those tariffs to still be there when the factories are ready. Trump would have to actively try to do more economic damage than he has already.

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        Aren’t taxes supposed to be paid according to the “tax incidence”, which depends on the elasticity of supply and demand? (Basically, how easy it is for respectively the seller and the buyer to find alternatives?) I guess that since a lot of products dont have domestic alternatives, US buyers have few alternatives, whereas foreign sellers have many (they dont necessarily have to sell to the US). As a result, yes, the US buyer will be paying most of the tariffs?

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      If they fucked me in the I’d at least have a good time. They fuck me in the wallet, which hurts a lot and not in a sexy way.