A small business owner who voted for Donald Trump recently posted a video on TikTok, pleading for help as crushing tariffs on China threatened to bankrupt his operation, which imports alloy wheels. His call for support, however, drew little sympathy from some fellow Americans.

“Votes have consequences,” he was told, with many comments from Twitter/X users relishing the notion that another MAGA voter was suffering because of their political choice. The backlash prompted a second video from the man, in which he dropped several F-bombs while criticizing the apparent heartlessness of those celebrating his hardship.

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      Its not a sports team, and people like this don’t understand that you don’t just vote one way because its the team you cheer for. Vote for what affects your life in the most positive way.

      This dumb ass got what he deserves.

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        I don’t disagree with the sentiment, but I do disagree with your reasoning

        Personally I don’t vote for what affects my life in the most positive way, because that seems a little selfish although it’s understandable.

        I vote for what I believe affects everyone’s life more positively, even if it’s not necessarily a benefit to my specific situation. I might not be gay but I would vote for the candidate who supports gay marriage vs the one that might give me a $1000 check for tariff profits.

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    It is very hard to feel pity for people who only feel pity for themselves, and never for others.

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    The backlash prompted a second video from the man, in which he dropped several F-bombs while criticizing the apparent heartlessness of those celebrating his hardship.

    Heartless shit upset that his vote to cause extreme hardship for others is actually causing hardship in his own life. Imagine throwing rocks at people and expecting sympathy when one bounces back and hits you in the face.

    May you live in interesting times. May you live in the times you voted for.

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      Its so hard for these people to understand that when you spew hate at others, whether through your actions, your words, or through your ballot, that people have less empathy for your than other people that might experience similar hardships and haven’t been spewing hate.

      The whole comparison of “you laughed at Charlie thing, and now we’re laughing at ice killing” is so hard for these people to understand why most sane people view these deaths differently.

      Person C spent his entire life spewing hate and saying some crazy shit that puts other people down, or in danger with his gun laws thinking, etc.

      Person R was just a normal person, not spewing hate as a career.

      Cue the shocked Pikachu face when they realize I care more about person R, than person C.

      Similarly, if this person voted for Trump and lost his farm, I’m gonna have a lot less sympathy for him, than someone who voted against Trump, and lost his farm.

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        I really hope most of us liberal leaning people did not laugh. Murder is horrific no matter who the victim.

        It is counter to the principles we (should ) live. Sure, no need to go pretend to be particularly impacted, or to suddenly try to find the goodness in him.

        Besides, most liberal leaning people are also reasonably smart and know such an act only makes things worse for us, even if our side didn’t do it.

        My first thought was it probably was a MAGA follower who did it, and it turned out to be the case.

        If you really need to laugh, laugh at MAGA for killing their own.

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        Honestly I feel that memes can somewhat help break it down to a format even these chuckle fucks could understand if they wanted to.

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        I don’t think the issue is lack of understanding, they’re operating on faith logic where theyre looking for validation not information.

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          We laughed cause he spent years calling for political violence and then got what he asked for.

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        The whole comparison of “you laughed at Charlie thing, and now we’re laughing at ice killing” is so hard for these people to understand why most sane people view these deaths differently.

        The primary difference here is that Charlie was murdered by a citizen who was arrested as soon as his identity was uncovered and is now in custody.

        Renee Good was murdered by a federal agent that has the full support of the federal government and will likely never be arrested or face any accountability.

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        Oh no it’s not like that.

        Person C was wearing my team’s colours, and person R wasn’t. Therefore person C’s death is terrible and person R’s joke is a funny joke.

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        The ridiculous thing is that they expect any empathy at all, when a key feature of their ideology is a complete lack of empathy.

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          The ridiculous thing is that centrists will give them the empathy they want, no matter what they do, and then spew all their hate at the left.

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      “So much for the tolerant left” they cry, after punching leftists in the face for 30+ years.

      All that’s left is the consequences of their own actions, anybody who would’ve been willing to help them gave up long ago.

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    to everyone in America who is suffering, I feel you you, unless they were MAGA, in which case eat shit you garbage of a human being

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    He should be mocked and ridiculed until it penetrates his tiny brain that he is part of the problem and he is getting what he deserves.

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    He can get a job as a picker on another farm. Maybe one owned by a big corporation. Maybe his own former farm once it’s sold. They are freeing up work conventionally done by imigrant workers, right? Hard work pays off under conservatives, right?

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      You mean the megacorp farm that actually got $ from the government… Plus tax cuts, and sweetheart trade deals with favored foreign countries? One of those?

      They are in the process of lining up the layoffs as soon as those new androids roll off the assembly line.

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    At this point, it’s not even about economics anymore—it’s a moral failure. You can’t claim to love your country while cheering for policies that ruin your fellow citizens, only to cry when the bill finally comes for you too.

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      My UK family always used to ask what makes Canadians different from USAians, as they saw us all as America. And it was hard to describe.

      But talking to US coworkers lately I found a common theme: While Canadians may not seem very patriotic, we do work towards a common goal of making a society better for all.

      In the US every comment I hear from coworkers is “I Got Mine, so I ain’t worried.” And made me realize USA thinks patriotism is living as an individual in a grand country, but not actually caring about their country as a whole.

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        …made me realize USA thinks patriotism is living as an individual in a grand country, but not actually caring about their country as a whole.

        that’s because none of us have felt represented by our government since before Regan. Why should I care about my country if it is actively hostile towards me? My entirely life it has wanted to make things impossible for me to succeed. Actively destroyed any possibility of succeeding.

        the only thing I learned in my life as an American is that I’ll lie cheat and steal my way to a better tomorrow, because at the end of the day morals and ethics don’t fill your belly and warm your bed at night. it doesn’t protect my family. it doesn’t create opportunities for my kids.

        fuck this country, fuck this government, fuck every single politician and corpofascist that allowed this to happen.

        I’m not a bad person, I just have to be bad because they won’t let me live any other way.

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          In a democracy, it all boils down to who votes for what. Too bad that people are so susceptible to propaganda, which taps in to their fears and low moral values. It’s okay to blame the politicians, but don’t forget the voters who have given them permission.

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          For example, I watch bushcraft and survivalist videos for fun and education, and the prepped survivalists almost universally are preparing to defend their homesteads from literally everyone.

          I prefer the ones that cite the Amish and similar communities works. They understand survival comes from both skills and community.

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        I think the US isn’t really a country despite what they say, it’s just a bunch of people living in the same area.

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        I don’t know man, it doesn’t feel that way up here as strongly anymore. I’m increasingly seeing more american-style conservatism

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          Well even that seems to show we have our own style, and can feel “American” style seeping in

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      On the topic of tariffs, voters were outright lied to, so I won’t criticize people for believing it. I’d be surprised if most people graduating high school now even know what a tariff is, much less how they work.

      Bummer for us even more that the worst hasn’t yet come on tariffs, and only because it takes so long for new trade agreements to take effect. In the next year or two Europe and China will have rerouted their trade around the US rather than through it.

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          Yeah, we all carry around the entire knowledge of human existence in our pockets, saying “I never knew,” doesn’t fly anymore. The rest of us knew, what’s your excuse?

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      Actually, that’s not the issue. Like, for real, I’m not trying to mock you it anything like that; I submit disagree with the premise.

      The problem is fear, not lack of intelligence. They’re cowards. Fear can, and will, make fools of the smartest people. But really, what’s the common theme in literally all Republican messaging? Fear.

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        It’s a combination. I saw a video last week about how MAGA tout their larger amyglya (spelling err) as proof they are smarter. The video pointed out that part of the brain regulates fear.

        Fear makes one vulnerable to influence by would be protectors. Stoke enough fear and critical thinking is very difficult.

        Smarter people learn how to manage the fear and rise above it.

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        You have to be stupid to be afraid of the things they say you should be afraid of.

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          Agreed. When in a moment of common someone explains with logic why there is no reason to be afraid, any remaining fear is entirely illogical. Therefore any person who continues to feel the fear has rejected logic and can be best described as a stupid whiny little bitch. The abbreviation for this is M.A.G.A, the initialism only makes sense is it’s original stupidlittlebitchanese.

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        I remember reading somewhere the disgust is a strong motivator for right wing voters. It was a study where simply cleaning the area where people vote increased support for progressive candidates.

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        If we have a progressive president, the trick would be for them to exude an aura of courage and certainty. FDR and Theodore did that, and are among the top five American presidents for it. Fireside chats were something that FDR did, not just to explain, but also to reassure. Before him, Theodore, was willing to risk his own flesh in battle and to remain standing after being shot by an assassin.

        We need brave guys and gals to speak for a better future.

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        All right wing strategies is about fear, all around the world it’s the same tactics, and sorry but the stupid fall for those tactics.

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          Not just the stupid. Is it stupid to give in to fear? Well, yes, of course it is; but even genius is not infallible. And, unfortunately, the propagandists know exactly how to trap you in fight or flight mode.

          It’s hard not to dehumanize those that helped bring this about. I know. But it’s not an easy, simple thing, and it’s been brewing for the entire history of this country. Not to mention bigotry is the favored tactic of our adversary. Behaving on their level is not my plan, I don’t know about the rest of y’all…

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        One can be both stupid and fearful. In fact, Trump needs his minions to be both of these things, because with intelligence and rationality, comes the notion that one need not fear things like the LGBTQ+, or women.

        When people are stupid enough to believe they have something to fear, the solution can be easily sold to them.

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      It’s not that all conservative people are stupid but all stupid people are inevitability conservative.

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      “Stupidity” is a powerless hypothesis, intended not to explain, but to terminate thought.

      Edit: way to prove my point.

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    On one hand he voted exactly for this.

    On the other hand, he is a worker that was systematically exploited to be less educated about political affairs and then exploited further by having his work taken from him.

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      It’s shitty that people relish in the suffering of another but it only takes a room temp IQ to have realized Trump was a con man in 2016. It took even less intelligence to realize Trump was unfit to lead in 2020. Voting for him post Jan 6th? You’re a fucking traitor.

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      It doesn’t take much education to know what a lying, fascist sack of shit Trump is.

      With cleverer, more sneaky politicians, I might pity the man who didn’t know. Not with this one. All the morons who voted for Trump knew exactly what they were doing.

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        I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. These people are both stupid and so propagandized so as to be effectively cult members, nothing will change until the propaganda sources are annihilated and their economic backers hanged, butchered, and burned to ash.

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        I’m always torn between accusing people of willful delusion, and sympathy for the difficulty of breaking out of a cult you’re culturally incentivized towards. I genuinely think that if the ‘Left’ had the funding the ‘Right’ does, this wouldn’t even be a contest. But one side is playing with a crazy big handicap, and we know from history exactly the kinda of culture that leads to. Discourage critical thinking, and you will find yourself with less and less critical thinkers around you.

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      No. He has access to all the same information we all had. He chose not to care. Ignorance is not an excuse anymore.

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      This is the right take here. I’m sure without all the propaganda far less people would support Trump.

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    It is interesting to read the coverage. Many of us didn’t relish anything. We find it ironic, we find it good for the lulz, and we ask ourselves, “Do you think he learned anything?” followed by the observation, “Meh, probably not. Reality never interested him, so why should things be different now?”

    We don’t want Trump supporters to get fucked. Rather, we want to live in a world where Trump can’t fuck over anyone. But that’s not the situation right now, and karma’s a motherfucker.

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      THIS!!!

      They don’t seem to understand that we aren’t enemies. They are Americans, just like we are Americans. We want ALL Americans, including them, to be healthy, well paid, well fed, and safe.

      Those conditions are NOT being met right now. Ask anyone on food stamps how well fed they are.

      Ask an economist how well paid the average american is.

      Ask Rene Good how safe she feels. Oh wait, you can’t. She’s dead.

      Right now, America is in a very dangerous place. Some say we’re dangerously close to being a fascist dictatorship. Others say we’re already there. Trump brought this, but he’s not the “cause”. Trump is only the tool. Even if the 2028 election is legit, and Trump can’t run, he was never the archetect of this. OTHER republicans will prop up the next guy. They’ll say the democrat running that year is the cause of everybodys misery. And the same path trump led us down will be continued. And nothing will change.

      Even when it became clear that covid was killing more republicans than democrats, despite logically it making more sense that it would kill more in densly populated democrat cities. Which it only did so because democrats respected 6 feet distance, masks and vaccines. While republicans…made out with their sisters I guess?

      Even when it became clear it was killing them more than democrats, they STILL called it a hoax.

      Then I’d see actual real life examples of them posting on facebook that “their brother just died of covid, and omg guys covid is real, we need to start taking precautions!”. Only to be met by their own community as a traitor to their community. Mocked for believing in covid. Until another post was the same thing. Aaaaaaand repeat.

      This stupid “war” has never ended. It’s only gotten dumber, with bigger stakes.

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        • They don’t seem to understand that we aren’t enemies. They are Americans, just like we are Americans.

        • While republicans…made out with their sisters I guess?

        Maybe mixed signals like these are just unclear to them (and people in general)?

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          And your reaction is another one that ignores reality. As I predicted, sigh.

          If a person treats me like shit, I’m not going to invite them over for coffee, but neither do I hope their mom dies of cancer. That’s just common sense. That’s something everyone can understand, but only if they can get over their own ego.

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            I think my “reaction” was fairly normal for common people reading an internet comment. Most people aren’t going to take the time to analyze every occurrence of divisive language like that.

            If I were a Republican, and someone suggested that I “made out with my sister,” then I’d probably sense a disrespectful tone in what I’m reading. It’s unfortunate that it “contaminated” the surrounding text which was actually making a decent point.

            In other words: Does the inclusion of the “made out with their sisters” part make the communication more productive, or less productive? (Though “productive” might depend on the actual intent, e.g. unity vs. division.)

            When so many people needlessly choose divisive language, people become more divided. How is this not obvious?


            Slightly off-topic: For those who might not understand this, the book How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie might improve your life. It was written in 1936, but a lot of it is still applicable because humans are still humans. If you’re not into reading, the audiobook is good too.

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    Did I know he was going to increase the tariffs? Yes, I did. However, I thought that the infrastructure would be set up prior for small business to come back to America and manufacture in America.

    No, you were told what the result would be. You knew the outcome. You decided to follow your cult instead of common sense. You got what you voted for. I only wish everyone else didn’t have to suffer because of your evil.

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      When Trump first started talking about tariffs this is exactly what everybody said. Unless you also introduce schemes to assist with setting up infrastructure in the US then the tariffs are not going to have the desired effect.

      Nobody is going to set up a factory if there’s every possibility that the tariffs will go away at some point in the next 4 years. Not unless the cost of setting up that factory is ameliorated somehow. Otherwise companies are just going to accept they’re going to get fewer orders from the US for the next few years.

      Especially if setting up a factory in another country means that your staff are likely to get abducted by ICE for no reason.

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      I work in logistics. The whole industry has been saying amongst ourselves the whole time there’s barely a chance that suppliers of assembled goods will move the majority of their warehouses of manufactured products to the US. Let alone the manufacturing itself.

      Absolutely delulu.

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        I am once again reminded of that manufacturing company owner who was shocked by the price of a made in america machine going up so much due to tariffs

        like mf do you not realize how that machine gets made? the people who make it in america buy tons of parts from other countries because it’s cheaper, so yeah when they have to buy those parts here or pay tariffs because they literally cannot get the parts here, its going to cost more.

        the number of people who own businesses and are absolute fucking dumbasses is just astounding to me. like good on them for having initiative, but wow is it ever surprising how many are stupid

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          the people who make it in america buy tons of parts from other countries because it’s cheaper

          There are also an unimaginable amount of parts and raw resources that are only available from very specific suppliers or countries. The economy is global and in 2026 no country is an economic island. This was always going to be the outcome. Every economist, manufacturer, and logistics expert on the planet pointed this out repeatedly. And that’s before we even touch on how shitty these factory jobs are. Dangerous, tedious, awful jobs are what you want for your country? No, the whole thing was always about robbing USians to give give free money to billionaires.