• Nurgus@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    Unpopular opinion: We should offer all dictators and their friends a safe retirement package.

    Cornered dictators are dangerous. They will always keep escalating because the alternative isn’t just their neck on the block, it’s all of their friends and family too.

    • DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world
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      49 minutes ago

      We didn’t do such for Hitler and Mussolini.

      Besides, Putin can take refuge in China or North Korea, maybe even Belarus, Cuba, or Nicaragua.

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      Putin had that posibiblty by not doing what he did, giving this option to them means they have no reason to not try this shit, I disagree firmly with this idea

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      6 hours ago

      I don’t think most of them would do it if they had to give up their power and wealth.

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        3 hours ago

        It’s not for when things are going well. It’s for when their backs are against the wall. They are very heavily incentivtized to fight to the last no matter the cost.

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            2 hours ago

            It’s always rational at a personal level. Everyone thinks they’re doing the right thing for some combination of themselves, their friends and their allies.

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      6 hours ago

      I absolutely agree. What good is retribution, in the face of all the untold future injustices and suffering that could be prevented by allowing dictators and their ilk to simply… stop being dictators?

      At the end of the day, “just desserts” really aren’t all that they’re cracked up to be. Tasty as they may be, they are just desserts. Have a strudel or a pudding instead.

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          7 hours ago

          Yes but that was supposed to be the magnanimous and merciful “safe retirement package” as an alternative to certain death at the hands of an executioner. Exile wasn’t a death sentence. Life definitely wouldn’t have been easy, but he had servants who joined him in exile to help keep him alive and happy.

          Instead, he found a way back to France and the first army that arrived to intercept him immediately put themselves under his command again. That’s the danger of allowing warmongering dictators to have their cushy exit strategy - they may not see it as a way out of ultimate punishment, but as a reset button.

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            6 hours ago

            I’m less worried about that in this case. Napoleon was one of the greatest generals in human history, he was inspiring. Putin has been failing to conquer the poorest country in Europe for over four years.

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              4 hours ago

              With the frankly shocking number of Americans who espouse their unwavering support for Trump, no matter what he says or does, I have very little faith in humanity’s collective ability to judge leaders objectively.

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          7 hours ago

          Holy whoosh batman.

          Gotta chat with air traffic controllers for how much airspace there is between you and this comment chain.

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      6 hours ago

      I don’t know man, this sounds good at first but think of how many thousands of lives would be saved if we let a handful of evil people go unpunished.

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        6 hours ago

        The most probable “punishment” that Putin is going to get at this rate is dying while sleeping without any pain.

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    One source said Putin believes ending the war without capturing at least all of the Donbas could threaten his survival.

    Even if all of Donbas is captured, he had relegated all of Russia into irrelevance for generations to come. Russia will become a vassal to China. The future Russians will despise him for it. Putin may not personally care what people think of him, but he certainly cares what will happen to Russia’s prestige.

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    7 hours ago

    I’m sure the Kyiv Post is a very reliable source of objective reporting on this matter.

    where men have allegedly been detained on the streets and forcibly sent to fight in Ukraine

    Huh, where else have I seen that?

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    14 hours ago

    Something is coming we do not know about. 😏 The billionaire/ultra wealthy class have been erratic the past couple years, plundering all the wealth they can thinking it matters.

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    15 hours ago

    I mean, I support Ukraine, but I certainly don’t trust them to quote him accurately. Doesn’t mean that he doesn’t think so.