• jeffw@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Please note that NSFW/NSFL videos must be labeled as such or they will be deleted

    Edit: also keep in mind that initial information in these situations can often be inaccurate. Trusted outlets have conflicting reports about whether a suspect has been detained.

    Edit 2: the campus has officially stated they release the initial subject. Donald Trump has stated Charlie Kirk is dead.

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        For anyone wondering: it’s not gory as such, but it is significant in that way that tells our lizard brains something undeniably bad just happened.

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          I…what?

          How else would you define ‘gory’?

          I am genuienly curious, you have a definition of gore…that is not fundamentally based in a human realizing something is very, very wrong with another living being?

          Like… your blood is generally supposed to stay inside you. Blood is generally considered more gory the more of it there is.

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            the blood doesn’t spray everywhere or all over him, but you can tell a lot gushed out quickly and goes out of view of the camera….
            it’s really fast and mostly you notice his shirt moving suddenly

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              So to you, only blood spatter is gory?

              Not actually just watching something like 1/3 to 1/2 his blood exit his body in maybe 3 seconds tops?

              Like if a guy shat out all his intenstines, but … they went off camera, neatly into a bucket… that wouldn’t be gory?

              Again I am just curious about this, different people are disgusted by different things, draw the lines in different ways I guess.

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        But if someone’s gonna make some wisecrack comment celebrating/endorsing acts of violence, they should definitely watch it to see the sick reality of what they’re celebrating.

        Kirk is (was?) a piece of shit, but the armchair judges, juries, and wannabe executioners around here need a reality check.

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          There is at least one fewer person advocating for the complete removal of my civil rights as a trans woman.

          He won’t be missed, and in two months I’ll think about him as much as I think about Rush Limbaugh.

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          I watched it 15 times in a row. Gonna watch it a few dozen times more when more perspectives come back. He deserves worse.

          You’re sick in the head

          Goddamn right I’m sick in the head! Fascism makes us sick. All the more reason to stand up to the monsters who push for it.

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                Then why are you not organizing an attack squad? Instead you are just a keyboard warrior hoping to radicalize someone who sees your comments.

                Edit: their removed reply to this post was advocating for violence.

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                  How is your comment not advocating for violence? Really sounds like you’re pushing him to be violent rather than just leave angry comments online

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          Kirk pushes a narrative of violence and hate. I felt nothing but celebration seeing him get shot

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    “I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights” - Charlie Kirk, 2023

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      To quote Jesus: live by the sword, die by the sword.

      That’s all that comes to mind.

      These people who have been pushing for getting rid of trans people and throwing immigrants in concentration camps, and generally just calling for (and profiting from) hate need to realize doing so only has one consequence: more hate. Hate boils into violence.

      People can pray for him, but he did not live a life according to Jesus’ teaching when he preached hate.

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      Ironically, this assassin literally justified the 2nd Amendment. You use it to off tyrants. And boy they sure did.

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        But this guy wasn’t even a tyrant. He was just a fucking pawn. And there’s going to be somebody else ready to step in and take his place.

        This doesn’t solve anything. It just gives the right a much needed distraction and the illusion of having an excuse to crackdown hard on the left. They would have done it either way, but this basically buys them cover.

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            So was this guy put on trial or was he just executed (allegedly by a civilian sharp shooter) during a time when the president keeps making false claims about needing to militarize American cities due to a lack of law and order?

            Funny you bring up this guy going to Nuremberg bc I was actually just thinking the other day how different history might have turned out of we’d actually put the major players like Hitler or Mussolini on trial in front of the rest of the world.

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              Obviously this was a case of vigilante justice. But the man made his whole living trying to incite genocide against innocent people. The US government just blew up a boat full of Venezuelans, murdering them without trial, on the accusation of them being drug smugglers. Our closest ally, Israel, routinely executes people without trial for doing far less than what Kirk did.

              The 2nd Amendment is always cited as being to protect against tyranny. That obviously entails extrajudicial violence. If there is ever a valid use for extrajudicial violence, it’s in the prevention of genocide. The president will do all the evil he was going to do anyway. But he’s a fascist, of course he’s going to do that.

              I’m sorry, but I’m not going to shed a tear for this guy. His last words were an attempt to incite violence against a minority group. If there is a Hell, he’s burning there right now.

              Those who live by the sword will die by the sword. He got exactly what was coming to him.

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      It wouldn’t surprise me if this was an inside job to distract from Trumps problems

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        This is just my perspective, and I never wish harm or suffering on another living being, but if what/who you are and advocate for causes these things and you’re too stupid or bribed to see it and continue being you… Then, for the greater good, good riddance

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      It’s all fun and games until Republicans use this as an excuse to further enforce their fascist agendas. Just glad this happened in Utah and not Illinois or California. Blue states will likely bear the brunt of the repercussions if there are any.

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        It’s all fun and games until Republicans use this as an excuse to further enforce their fascist agendas.

        Republicans are marching National Guard soldiers into the largest cities in America on exaggerated “crime fighting” excuses. They have established an unaccountable militia with ICE hiding their identities and violating the civil rights of American citizens on exaggerated or fabricated drug/violence reasons. They’ve needed no legitimate excuses to do these things, yet they are actively doing them. This changes nothing on that front.

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        They were going to no matter what because no one is willing to stop them. Now there’s one less.

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          Don’t kid yourself, whatever they were going to do, is going to taken up a few notches.

          However you feel about his dying, the manner of his death will absolutely change what happens next.

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            Did anything change after the political assassinations of Emerita Melissa Hortman and her husband, Mark Hortman?

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    I have to admit for a moment when I saw people commenting he was probably dead, I was glad. But after watching that video, I honestly feel like a piece of shit. Even if this somehow leads to something good. Which it probably won’t. Blowing someone’s throat out with a gun is just so viscerally awful.

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    Trump ordered flags at half mast until Sunday. So this piece of shit got what he quite literally asked for and it’s a national tragedy, but innocent children killed in schools on a weekly basis get “nothing we can do about it, thoughts an prayers 🤷‍♂️.” Fucking clownshow.