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    Please note that NSFW/NSFL videos must be labeled as such or they will be deleted

    Edit: also keep in mind that initial information in these situations can often be inaccurate. Trusted outlets have conflicting reports about whether a suspect has been detained.

    Edit 2: the campus has officially stated they release the initial subject. Donald Trump has stated Charlie Kirk is dead.

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        But if someone’s gonna make some wisecrack comment celebrating/endorsing acts of violence, they should definitely watch it to see the sick reality of what they’re celebrating.

        Kirk is (was?) a piece of shit, but the armchair judges, juries, and wannabe executioners around here need a reality check.

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          There is at least one fewer person advocating for the complete removal of my civil rights as a trans woman.

          He won’t be missed, and in two months I’ll think about him as much as I think about Rush Limbaugh.

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              I’m a double stroke victim. I can barely walk without a cane.

              My job isn’t to punch nazis, my job is to tell the nazi-punchers what squares to stand on, and what the nazis’ weaknesses are (hint: it’s bullets).

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                Keyboard warriors are very important, too. MAGA Nazis understand the importance of messaging, and the Left needs a lot more of it.

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          Kirk pushes a narrative of violence and hate. I felt nothing but celebration seeing him get shot

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    “I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights” - Charlie Kirk, 2023

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    I’m sorry for his death. I disagreed with most of his points, I’m not event from the USA, but I hate seeing people celebrating the assassination of someone. What a fucked up world.

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    I have to admit for a moment when I saw people commenting he was probably dead, I was glad. But after watching that video, I honestly feel like a piece of shit. Even if this somehow leads to something good. Which it probably won’t. Blowing someone’s throat out with a gun is just so viscerally awful.

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    The most interesting thing about people like him getting killed is that the it exposes just how morally bankrupt this country is at its core. There’s no morals, no values, no principles, no accountability, no self awareness, and no consistency among the populace. Social media has really fried everybody’s brain.

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    I’m super not stoked on this event, I know that makes me a big softy or whatever but I’m not gonna be the one celebrating blood and death and mayhem regardless of who it is…BUT Charlie Kirk is was one of the leading big mouths pushing political discourse to this point. He’s been helping fill the tinderbox and somebody just dropped a lit match into his lap.

    I just hope to God they don’t try to spin this into a store-brand Reichstag Fire moment since they can’t get any big reaction from the Nat’l Guard presence.

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    This is tragic, but not for the obvious reasons. Despite him being a hateful man who added nothing of value to this world, his death will do the same. ITT there are a lot of people who Kirk has negatively impacted. While I don’t blame anybody for how they feel, no one should be cheering or dancing about somebody’s death. But here we are.

    What concerns me most is that his death will not make things better for anybody. If anything, I worry that it’ll make things much worse. Those people who followed Kirk will now feel more emboldened in their ideology, and view Kirk as a martyr. Trump and his ilk will probably lash out with more bullshit EOs or enforcement of their illegal policing of innocent people.

    Celebrate while you can, as we certainly live in interesting times.

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      The fact he was trying to be racist and his last sentence was, “Counting or not counting gang violence?”

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      It’s all fun and games until Republicans use this as an excuse to further enforce their fascist agendas. Just glad this happened in Utah and not Illinois or California. Blue states will likely bear the brunt of the repercussions if there are any.

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        They were going to no matter what because no one is willing to stop them. Now there’s one less.

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          Don’t kid yourself, whatever they were going to do, is going to taken up a few notches.

          However you feel about his dying, the manner of his death will absolutely change what happens next.

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            Did anything change after the political assassinations of Emerita Melissa Hortman and her husband, Mark Hortman?

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    Its in moments like these that I really appreciate non corporate social media. Everywhere outside the fediverse all I see is people freaking out, acting like this is the first shooting to ever happen in the united states. Even supposed leftists are just like “I don’t agree with the man but no one deserves to get killed over their beliefs”.

    They seem to have forgotten that people get killed over way dumber shit all the time. Personally I care about all the other shootings a lot more than this one. Especially the school shooting in Colorado that happened the same afternoon, which is being mostly ignored.

    There are even lots of comments that condemn anyone making light of his death, or even just making comments about his politics. This dissent they condemn is almost nowhere to be found though, because algorithms bury it all straight to the bottom. The only opinion allowed to be seen is “I’m horrified look at me”.

    Coming back to a place where a real discussion can be had makes me realize just how important this project really is. We need more spaces that we truly own.