This kid:
That kid is a fucking hero. I said so on Reddit when it happened, and I’m saying it here now as well. I condone his actions and, if more people did what he did, we would stand a better fighting chance against this loathsome menace currently destroying everything good in the USA and abroad.
Did reddit ban you for promoting violence? Pigboy steve only allows conservatives leeway in what they post
No, though I did post specifically that I condone what he did. It wasn’t that though. I’m dual national American and French. I grew up a lot in the USA, but I’ve been living in France for over ten years and I’ve chosen my side in this fight. To that end: I’ve been 100% serious about getting off of the American tech stack. I’ve left iCloud (Apple Music forthcoming) entirely, and been getting off of more and more non-EU/FOSS places. I’ve been blogging about it to help others. It’s been rewarding. Lemmy was just another step to take. 😃👍
While I generally agree that all Nazis must be punched, this can be counterproductive.
Look what’s going on in France. A Nazi got into a brawl, died from his wounds, and now he’s treated like a fucking national hero. The left in general are portrayed as terrorists.
Don’t underestimate how efficient the right is at playing the victim.
It doesn’t matter. They’re getting what they want. You can play nice and let them have what they want, or you can take some risks, stand for what you believe in, and fight back.
Fighting back against school bullies is also “against the rules.”
Fighting back against school bullies is also “against the rules.”
As a kid, I had problems with bullies. Then I grew, trained, and fought back with increasing effectiveness. That ended it, and the suspensions I got along the way were a cost of doing the right thing.
I mean it may feel good to punch one of these Nazi’s, but it doesn’t mean it’s helping. I love what this kid did, don’t get me wrong. We absolutely need to fight back and stand for what we believe in, but getting violent, except out of defense, is unproductive and only deepens the wedge between the left and the right, making things worse.
People are going to have to do more than “punch Nazis” before long. If you’re clutching pearls over some high school punches, you need to wake up.
but it doesn’t mean it’s helping
This is one of those categorical imperatives where it has its desired effect as long as everyone consistently does it.
If we don’t resist, they’ll lie and say we did. If we defend ourselves, they’ll say we’re violent. So doing nothing, or doing the minimum, is ineffective. In fact, not doing things because of worries about potential fascist reactions is nothing but cowardice that plays into their hands.
only deepens the wedge between the left and the right, making things worse
There should never be any unity between the left and the right, and the violent right shouldn’t exist at all. If you’d like to eat a meal that’s 50% horse shit, that’s on you, but there are times when the only correct course of action is not to compromise. This is one.
Kid was walking through the high on attention with a big ol sign to advertise for an untrained, highly aggresive, indescriminatly brutal paramilitary force acting out of their jurisdiction and kidnapping people off of the streets mostly without even documenting where they take them. Kid knows damn well what he supports and wants everyone to know it.
There is a time for civil debate and there’s a time for punchin’
I think carrying a sign in support of ice should count as punchin’ worthy.
Its helping. They want you to keep silent. That is their main goal
this can be counterproductive
I see no downsides at all as long as you don’t explain why you’re doing it and don’t get caught.
That just means they’re not killing enough Nazis.
And we need to crush this bullshit! Especially in Lyon it’s absolutely mind-blowing that this little shit is allowed to even be recognized as a victim. We fucking judged Klaus Barbie in Lyon when I was a kid, and people dare to say a nazi is a victim. You’ve no idea how insane this whole thing is.
Every time a Nazi gets punched , an angel 😇 gets their wings.
Every unpunched Nazi makes the baby Jesus cry.
Yes open civil war is the way to go.
Yeah, much better to capitulate, historically that’s always worked out well.
Well last time we had the deplorable, violent racists trying to run the show, they had to be crushed into submission - so maybe, yeah. They must be shown that their vile ideas and actions have consequences. CLEARLY they haven’t received enough consequences lately, given their utter lack of shame in <current year>. When it really comes down to it, I’d bet their small minority can’t possibly put up a large enough fighting force willing to stick their necks our for racism anyways, certainly none of the octogenarian monsters at the top.
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Oh look, a fascist troll. Blocked.
This person really made an account just to dick ride a pedophile.
So easy to fall off something that tiny.
The same agents who are raping, murdering, and molesting children in the ICE concentration camps? The same ones who brutalized, terrorized, and murdered people in communities so they could deport immigrants, 5% of whom have criminal records?
Yea okay I’ll keep protesting.
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Just as a post script- I know I won’t convince you to hate ice, but maybe I can convince you that I don’t hate you. That the left doesn’t hate you. I need to remember the right doesn’t hate lil’ ol queer me. We hate what we’ve been told about each other.
Renee Good’s last words were “I’m not mad at you”
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Nobody would, you’re right. And yet a whole lot of people do hate ICE. It’s a thinker, that one, for sure.
If that’s your bar, then we need to deport every Catholic priest and cop. They are much more likely to hurt someone I, or you, love.
We’ve been brainwashed into thinking some brown kid from across the border who’s parents went through hell and back is the problem. Frankly, we’ve also been brainwashed into thinking the angry MAGA capped West Virginian is the problem. It’s not.
You know the problem. It’s your health insurance premiums. It’s your cost of food. It’s your cost of living. It’s your pain. It’s the same pain that made the brown folks come here and the West Virginian vote for a rapist convict.
That pain doesn’t come from a made up immigrant eating a dog. It comes from a group of men that could fit in a school bus who have ensured we stay disconnected and dumb so they can rob us blind. ICE is here to enforce this belief, not keep us safe.
The only way out is to kill a king. The only way to kill a king is to trust your neighbors. 14% or 5%
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He accepted the consequences. We all heard it.
“Student” is a funny way to spell “Absolute Gigachad Legend” but OK.
White privilage on full display
I got arrested and charged with “aggravated assault” and nearly expelled for self-defence against a racist bully. I’m not white.
We need more white kids to use their privilage for good
2-days seems pretty average for fighting in my experience.
We need more white kids to use their
privilageprivilege
And a lifetime of cred.
Fucking legend.
Punch fascists!
It’s basically a form of self-defense.
I forget where I read it recently: “the trouble you get in for punching a fascist is less than the trouble you get in for not punching them.”
Received a 2-day standing ovation you say?
For me it was the little clap he did before swinging. Gets me every time.
I can’t get enough of that either and while all the great memes do the lad justice, I can’t help but feel we’re all robbed by the way they don’t capture the eager, self-satisfied “I can’t wait to deliver this L”, delicious, audible little clap 😭
Now ban the meta loser for recording students
If I were him… Totally worth it.
I’d pay his bail
I fucking love this guy. He is as cool as the egg kid.
A ska band made a song about the egg boy
Not all heroes wear capes. Thank you, young man, for your courage to tackle this idiot.
they should give the kid a award not suspension
A kid getting two-day out of school suspension is like a cop getting paid leave. If I were his parent there would be no punishment at home and probably a new game (or Fortnite skins or whatever) of his choice to enjoy on his suspension.
lol @ Fortnite skins. He is worthy.
He earned his sweet drip
Shit I would even let him buy shoes with his V-bucks, at this point.
I wouldn’t even be thinking about a punishment
Either way, its a slap on the wrist, but also a badge of honor.
Worth it
Feels weird to work in Zürich, Switzerland and see Lake Zürich every day, and then read about a random US highschool on the outskirts of Chicago being called “Lake Zurich High School”
Wait til ya hear about all the many places and things in the US named after the literal tribes of humans who once lived in roughly that exact spot 😐
All of North America is weird like that. I live within an easy drive of Stockholm, Kandahar, Amsterdam, Strasbourg, Aberdeen, Hague, and Moose Jaw.
I’m Scottish and once or twice a year will drive through the original Dallas. These days it’s just a single row of about two dozen houses (it has the remnants of a medieval castle though).
Must have been pretty trippy living there in the 80s when one of the biggest shows on American and British TV was Dallas.
Oh, I didn’t even mention the towns we have that are named after much smaller places. Our Calgary is much bigger than the original, and I also live near a Colonsay, which while tiny is about double the size of the one in Scotland.
Yeah but Lake Zurich? Imagine founding a town and calling it “The Mediterranean Sea” or something lol
It’s also the name of the lake at the center of the village in Illinois.
Makes sense why that would feel weird tho
I recently learned about this place called Paris… in Texas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris,_Texas
Wait till you hear about Texas NY. It’s in Mexico NY.
Look at the city names in the southern and central part of Illinois, there’s a ton of towns and cities named after European locations
Haha the random occurrence of Altorf is fun.
Altdorf is the capital of our canton of Uri. Which is one of the early members of the first alliances that later became Switzerland under Napoleon. There is also a founding myth around Wilhelm Tell, not tenable with modern historical understanding, but still very popular. In that myth Altdorf is an important location too.
The interesting thing is that Altorf is an older spelling that we used to use. Now its Altdorf, literally alt + dorf, old + village, but I guess whoever brought the name to the US did so before the spelling was reformed! Cool detail.
