• anon_8675309@lemmy.world
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    I’m permaband from Reddit but I miss some local subs. I hope this encourages people to move away to something else.

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      Unfortunately probably a lot fewer will move than we expect. People seem capable of accepting all sorts of shittification in favour of actively changing their platform. Just look at how many still uses twitter, despite its literal nazification.

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      How do they permaban you? By IP address? I can’t see how they could verify a new user being the same person as a old one. Email address is trivial to get around too.

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        I got permabanned a while ago. In the time since, I’ve moved to a new country and gotten all new devices. Made a new account with a new email address to try to join local subs in the new area.

        That account was banned a couple hours later for ban evasion. I had made zero comments or posts and hadn’t joined any of my old subs. After that, I assumed they just have an AI that auto bans a chunk of new accounts “just in case”, because I genuinely have no idea what they could have done to connect the two accounts to each other.

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        They use several metrics to fingerprint you supposedly. I’m sure there’s a work around but I’m too fucking lazy for that when it comes to socials.

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      That honestly isn’t possible. I have several accounts perma banned and I just make new ones. VMs circumvent hardware ID mapping, VPNs circumvent IP banning. Until they require phone numbers to create accounts circumventing their bans is childs play.

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          lol jeez this Voyager app looks very much like Hydra Reddit app and I am very recently permabanned from Reddit for anti Trump/ICE/Pedo comments. I have the flu and am not thinking clearly about what app I was using.

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          lol jeez this Voyager app looks very much like Hydra Reddit app and I am very recently permabanned from Reddit for anti Trump/ICE/Pedo comments. I have the flu and am not thinking clearly about what app I was using.

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        Someone posted they wished Trump would die (basically). I said nah, let him stroke out and suffer.

        That was like my last strike. Before I had said stuff like Miller is a nazi and stuff(prove me wrong Reddit!). People would report those as threatening harm and I don’t think the Reddit goons really care so yeah…

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        I was just permabanned on 3 accounts for anti-ice/trump/pedo comments. 2 existing accounts were 10 years old. One was pretty much just for NSFW/NSFL stuff and I rarely commented on anything with.

        One new one I made afterwards was permabanned within 5 hours for ban evasion.

        Somehow I forgot I’d made one with “sign in with Apple” a while back and it was on my iPad. That account still works fine.

        It’s weird.

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          All of my accounts got permabanned on Reddit for calling someone “A piece of fucking human garbage” for saying that only vulnerable and old people died from Covid and how Covid wasn’t a big deal. I lost friends in their 20s to it.

          Apparently what I said was inciting hatred and violence. But saying a deadly pandemic that killed millions “wasn’t a big deal”, and “Your friends were probably going to die anyway” is perfectly okay to Reddit Admins.

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            Sorry if you did end up reading the comment I deleted. I misread your comment and thought you were denying COVID. I’m over here flighting off the flu (even though I got flu shot) and not thinking clearly.

            I once got a sub ban for speaking the truth about Lauren Bobert. Called her a “dumb cunt”, which is 100% true.

            Permabanned from the sub.

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              All good. Thanks for the correction I appreciate it. Yeah I was defending people who died and buddy was saying that only vulnerable or old people were dying so it’s “not a big deal”.

              I knew people who died who were healthy and young. The entire idea that anyone dying from a global pandemic is “not a big deal, they would die anyway” can eat the biggest bag of dicks.

              Apparently reddit disagrees.

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                Yep! Reddit is a lost cause, unfortunately I’m seeing some of the same BS around here now that I’m more active

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    Fucking never. Never ever. I’d sooner cut myself off from all technology and live in the woods than willingly give those creepy fucks my middle goddamn name. There is absolutely nothing good that will come from this company. The people at that company literally fucking movie villains. It’s fucking crazy that absolutely anyone works with them, let alone world governments.

    These large scale surveillance companies like Palantir, like Flock, they shouldn’t exist. They should be outlawed. Our government needs probable cause and a warrant to surveil a suspect. If a normal civilian followed you around and filmed you, kept track of you at all times, they’d be arrested for stalking. But for some reason private companies can just watch every man, woman, and child in public and online, catalog all our movements, where we went, how we went there, who was with us, track what we do, what we read, who we know, how we spend our time, what we say, etc., and then permanently log all of that, use it to form dociers on us, predict our behaviors, or desires, ways to manipulate us, and then turn around and sell that data to governments, other companies and private parties. How the fuck is that legal.

    Why in the fuck would you ever allow a private, profit-driven company to have that kind of power over your nation, let alone reward it with federal dollars, long term contracts and access to our law enforcement and military data and systems?

    Worse, the founders and CEO are unhinged wannabe dictators trying to form their own sovereign techno-states. They’re not even secretive about that. And our goverment is fucking funding these nuts and giving them every detail of the lives of our citizenry, our goverment officials, our military… how fucking stupid do we have to be, guys? I wish I could say it’s just Trump but it’s not. It’s mind boggling.

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      I bet there will always be bots on reddit. It’s so politicized, countries like Russia, US, China will always run farms there.

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      I’m milking it for SEO until I get kicked off. It’s been a shitshow since the pandemic. Probably had 10+ accounts banned for having an unpopular opinion, I wear that with pride.

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    Fucking Peter literally creating the very monster he claims to hate.

    16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

    17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

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      They’re trying to force it to happen. They somehow think they’ll be spared and only the people they hate will have to suffer.

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    The guy that said:

    Finding things on their way to collapse was much easier than finding the next bargain.

    I genuinely don’t understand how is he still free and alive. He’s as close to a real life devil you’d find. In his own words - he’s working on societal collapse to gain more power. Can someone do something already?

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      Is it?

      Most people won’t care and continue using it anyways.

      I won’t, for sure, but most people are fucking idiots when it comes to this stuff

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        The problem is there are a lot of subreddits that are an excellent resource. As far as I know, there aren’t any Blender help instances with a 100,000 people. I really wish there were.

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          Yeah, I haven’t used reddit for years, but recently landed there trying to figure out an issue with raspberry pi /ssh. So much content and support… real shame

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    If people cared about “the children” they wouldn’t let them on the Internet until they were 21.

    If people cared about humanity they wouldn’t allow “the algorithms” to exist or let social media or news media exist they way it does now.

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      I don’t think that’s the solution though, kids (including teens to some extent) can be on the internet but it requires better parenting. It’s better to monitor what they are doing online until they are like 15 or 16, maybe 17 if you have a really good reason too. Limit screen time, be around to answer questions your kid has about what they might see.

      Little kids though? Absolutely should be off the internet. Anyone under 10 shouldn’t be on the internet period in my opinion. 10-12 is kinda a gray zone to me where it’s definitely up to the parents and if they think their child is ready.

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        Also since they weren’t allowed on the internet till they were 21, those 21 year olds won’t know how to act on the internet. So now there’s 21 year olds roaming around who will need to figure all that shit out. They might get other aspects of being an adult but the internet will be completely alien.

        It’s like when I saw people saying kids shouldn’t be allowed into the grocery store because someone was annoyed that kids didn’t know how to behave there yet. You just create a new and larger problem where adults don’t know how to act.

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          The internet has been out for less time than some people have been alive. Are we sure we, as a species, know how to be an adult on the internet yet?

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            Free speech has been out for as long as humanity has existed, and every attempt at limiting it has ended badly.

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              Not really. Free speech is a cultural construct. It doesn’t exist without a huge swath of pre-agreed norms regarding rights, speech, freedom, … I’ll have you know, there are modern philosophers who argue against human rights. They would say human rights language pretends to be objective and universal, but it floats without a metaphysical anchor (unlike in the past) and in practice they only exist if a sovereign power recognizes them.

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        My nephew has a new baby. Her parents are constantly waving their phones in her face; sending pics back and forth; generally doing ‘millenial things’ with their phones when not actively attending the baby. Then proceed to get all freaked out when the baby expresses interest or curiosity in the phone.

        Kids mimic their parents behavior and interests. If you want kids with healthy internet use, you have to have parents model healthy internet use.

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        It is far more complicated. The brain develops slowly while social media provides constant dopamine hits leading to doom scrolling and the part of the brain that is tasked with hitting the brakes is just not there

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          Yes social media is a problem, however that alone does not justify banning everyone under 21 from using the entire internet. As the person who I replied to said they wanted.

          Social media is its own problem that’s needs regulations to come under control.

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          Doom go outside and doom touch grass. Then later, doom socialize with your family before doom dinner. Cap off the night with a good doom book before doom dreaming the night away.

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      That mentality is why teenage pregnancies happen. “Oh, just don’t do it kids! Sex is bad! Sex is only for adults!”

      Schools and parent HAVE to do a better job about teaching kids how to actually be safe on the internet and how to interact with content on the internet. Keeping children uneducated only makes uneducated adults.

      Plus there are so many children who need the internet for both learning purposes, and safety purposes. And also how the fuck would 18-20 year olds be able to do daily life things like have a job, have a bank account, and access government services without the internet.

      Keep people educated, stop hiding them from uncomfortable and “dangerous” topics. Silence and ignorance is what governments and companies want.

      We have kids protesting ICE on Roblox. Gen Z rebeled in Nepal with social media. Young people deserve freedom too.

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      People 18 and over are adults. I know the US somehow forbids adults from drinking but I don’t think more countries should dilute people’s rights.

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        Even if op’s case was satirical, it is quite ageist honestly. It is the difference between freedom and submission. Such outdated statements about increasing the common age is just a fascist disguise - minors which includes teens have less and less rights just because the belief that children shall be protected by bans is acceptable.

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      If people cared about “the children” they wouldn’t let them on the Internet until they were 21.

      Yeah, that’s only for the people that think they care, but are actually ageist and discriminate.

      Protecting children comes in hand with protecting humanity. The sole existence of predatory algorithms, and other shit makes age meaningless.

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      Yeah, we should also ban anyone under 25 from voting too! Brain isn’t fully developed! Reeeee!

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        And anyone over 50, brain is barely functional after 30 years of propaganda.

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      If people cared about “the children” they wouldn’t let them on the Internet until they were 21.

      I faintly recall there were then a few people who criticized Gore’s idea of opening up the Internet to the public.

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    Literally Spez right now…

    (I’d post the uncensored image but IIRC Lemmy World is German-based and have strict laws against Nazi iconography)

    He’s wilfully given the data of users who have criticized Trump and ICE, AND he looks like a spitting image of Tintin…

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      While germany has strict laws against using Nazi iconography, there are a lot of exceptions that allow them in satire, arts, etc.
      Couple of years back they even allowed swastikas in video games because the law recognised them as art.

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    Thats going to finally break my reddit addition, and ill bet any amount of money im not alone.

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        Or subtlely wrong just to break the AI that’s lining Spez’ pockets.

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          Not a bad idea. But AI is already subtly wrong as is. Just fill it with barely plausible sounding but completely garbage text,

          Idea bad, not. AI subtly already is wrong as. Text with plausible garbage fill.

          There should be an algorithmic way to do that starting from the posts/comments original text.

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          You could piss off the admins big time and they’ll ban and suspend all your accounts using advanced methods to connect them across different emails or even if you signed up anonymously, and not a single thing you ever wrote on there will ever be visible to the world again. Ask me how I know.

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            Alternatively, sell your account to spammers, and they’ll get your account banned in no time. Your comments get deleted, you’ll get paid for it, and Reddit becomes worse for everyone. I see no downsides in this arrangement.

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              Man, you’re telling me I could have been PAID?!

              It’s like those toys you had when you were a kid and then just threw out when you approached puberty and are now worth like thousands of $.

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                Even better. Those who betrayed your trust are the ones who ultimately pay the price. Think of it as vengeance with benefits.

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          There’s violentmonkey scripts that overwrite and delete them, and they stay gone. I’ve been using one for years.

          They might still be in some AI training data sets, but they’re not on my profile.

          The only PITA thing is that you get rate limited, so doing your initial batch of deletions could a while, then just run it semi-regularly.

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              You might have just let it run past the rate limit.

              After it limits you, the script looks like it’s still running, but if you hit refresh, you’ll see your timed out, and nothing past when you’re actually limited, got deleted. It’ll be several minutes before you can start running it again.

              I’ve done this for many hundreds of comments.

              Every once in awhile, I’ve had a few batches of comments reappear that I can’t associate with a rate limiting error, but I have yet to find comments that come back a third time.

              I guess YMMV, but that’s what my experience has been.

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                No, it was gone. The only thing that was left were relatively recent critiques I was commenting before I left. They took the time to fish my stuff out of old backups. Last I looked the critiques were there too so it wasn’t just a blanket restoration either.

                I’d be flattered if it weren’t so fucking creepy.

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    compelled to use

    I gotta say, a lot of the compulsion seems to be around “adult content” which is fairly easy to avoid in most cases.

    I would be more interested in how these rules tend to target LGBTQ+ groups for censorship than how they slap a “teenagers” tag on anyone who isn’t feeding them biometric data. This feels like another edition of “straight is normal, gay is sex” Christian orthodoxy being codified into the digital landscape.