Donald Trump has declared he intends to cancel most of the executive orders signed by Joe Biden, his predecessor as president of the United States.

In a post on social media, Trump claimed baselessly that Biden had not signed off on the orders himself, saying that “the radical left lunatics circling Biden around the beautiful Resolute Desk in the Oval Office took the Presidency away from him” by signing his name using an autopen – a signature machine that has commonly been used by US presidents since the device’s invention.

“The Autopen is not allowed to be used if approval is not specifically given by the President of the United States,” Trump said, baselessly alleging that it was operated by other people without Biden’s approval and claiming that “approximately 92%” of all executive orders were therefore invalid.

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    Respectfully, you’re an idiot, and don’t know what you’re talking about.

    Trump has been acting like his EO’s are law for almost a year. He has used them to illegally seize control of congress to control their power of the purse. He then used them to take over the FCC, the SEC, and any other Independant agency.

    Before Trump, EO’s weren’t laws, now they have enabled literal tyranny by its actual definition.

    Go open a dictionary if you know what that is, and look up what Tyranny means. It perfectly describes what Trumps EO’s have granted him. Which proves you completely fucking wrong that they aren’t “laws.”

    Under Trump, EO’s are above the law. They let him close USAID without Congress, killing millions, and then concentrate what used to be a seperation of powers exclusively in his hands. The small hands of a diaper wearing, dementia laden, child predator who wants to start international wars while charging citizens the highest tax rate of all time with Tariffs.

    Please read some fucking books instead of banning them you uncritically thinking tub of paste. The fact you can see EO’s as not laws before this year, but can’t seem to process the last 10 months of reality means you buried your head in the sand or your own ass. Pull it out if you want to make a point, otherwise you’re not living in fucking reality of you think EO’s under Trump are anything like they used to be.

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        Which President before Trump had complete legal immunity and unlimited executive authority as granted to them by the Supreme Court in Trump vs United States?

        None of them.

        Which means, very fucking plainly:

        Trump’s EO’s are not the same as ANY PREVIOUS EO’s made by any other president. Period.

        So he can do this:

        https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/18/trump-order-power-independent-agencies-00204798?ref=am-quickie.ghost.io

        Or just take control of congress to control their purse to defund entire institutions. Something clearly illegal but was done immediately with no questions so the courts could be tied up for years.

        His EO’s are a literal excuse for crime and the dismemberment of constitutional checks and balances and you want to compare them to EO’s being used legally before this case altered their power forever:

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_v._United_States

        • No president has had this power before.
        • So no president has issued EO’s with this power before.

        Trump is the first. And if you think his EO’s are limited to the same legal scope as any previous president you are a fucking idiot.

        This isn’t a copy paste. This is a basic understanding of American politics and law. Enough to know Trumps EO’s can exceed their scope of power, enable illegal and unconstitutional behavior, and have been used that way now for months.

        To make it clear for you who have red hats where you used to have brians:

        The Supreme Court has said it’s okay for the felon president to commit literal crimes while in office so Trump is using that power to use EO’s criminally.

        EO’s after “Trump v US” are not the same as any EO before it. You are incredibly naive and stupid if you believe otherwise.

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            The other poster is a raging asshole and not even remotely explaining himself well because he’s too busy being a raging asshole.

            What they’re saying is that Trump and this regime have effectively redefined what an EO is and what purpose they serve by making them essentially royal decrees, and the system has largely just gone along with it.

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            Nope, just you for not understanding my point.

            From the OG post:

            EO’s are not laws.

            Let me make it really fucking clear for those in this thread that ride the short bus:

            Because of Trump v United States, EOs are now above the law.

            So yes, EO’s can and always have had the ability to undo previous EO’s. I’ve literally never debated this, so please get better reading comprehension.

            However, never in the entire history of the United States have EO’s been used to illegally override actual fucking laws, or take the balance of power from Congress to control federal funds.

            Specifically:

            https://www.uclawsf.edu/2025/02/28/experts-examine-legal-limits-of-trumps-sweeping-executive-orders

            … the federal government’s spending power, which is controlled by Congress. He pointed to the Impoundment Control Act of 1974, which restricts the president’s ability to withhold funds authorized by Congress, and the Supreme Court’s 1998 ruling striking down a presidential line-item veto enacted by lawmakers.

            So, to be clear, it’s completely fucking illegal for a president to withhold funds authorized by congress. That is the law, it’s quoted above. Look it up.

            Okay. Cool. So now here are several of trumps EO’s completely breaking that law:

            https://www.splcenter.org/resources/guides/trump-funding-freeze-faq/

            On Jan. 21, 2025, the Trump administration’s Office of Management and Budget issued memo M-25-11 to pause all green energy disbursements previously approved by congress.

            The Jan. 27, 2025, memo M-25-13 (“Federal Funding Freeze Memo”) implemented the federal funding executive orders and placed a government-wide temporary pause for distributing grants, loans and other financial assistance on the related subjects Trump didn’t like despite being approved by congress.

            President Trump’s executive order titled “Implementing the President’s Department of Government Efficiency Initiative” required agencies to review all contracting policies, procedures and personnel; prepare guidance on efficiency; stop new awards; and expanded DOGE’s authorities to examine, cut or modify federal spending across agencies despite being approved by congress.

            So, ALL of these EO’s are completely fucking illegal. Period. Read the above law.

            Trump has now used dozens more of them to completely bypass the impound Control Act of 1974 and hold funds from Congress to distribute as he sees fit. That check and balance no longer exists. That function of Congress is now a function of the executive branch because of a fucking EO.

            How can these EO’s bypass the law if EO’s are supposed to be beneath it?

            You need to have an actual answer for this question to have a point. Otherwise you’re just stupid.

            From your own links:

            His administration also has been hit by more than 100 lawsuits as of Thursday, contending that the president has overstepped his authority under the Constitution, according to ABC News.

            This is because Congress are the only ones that can approve budgets. Not a president’s EO, that’s blatantly unconstitutional. As I have now basically drawn in crayon for you.

            Trump can use an EO to do whatever illegal thing he wants. So it doesn’t really matter that undoing previous EO’s is completely legal does it? Because even if that WAS illegal, he could still fucking do it because of the power his EO’s have from the Trump v United States ruling.

            How are you all too stupid to understand this basic logic?

            Congrats for having the profoundly naive ability to look exclusively at the few EO’s Trump has legally issued while ignoring his dozens of others that hundreds of lawyers agree break the law and our constitution.

            Believe it or not, I do understand Trump can actually follow the law with an EO, but my point is how that doesn’t at all matter when he can, has, and will continue to overwhelmingly use them illegally. Your point is completely fucking moot given these facts. Which indeed makes look stupid for not understanding mine.

            You might as well point out some things Hitler did legally while you’re at it, seeing as you’re already making the same kind of stupid argument here.

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            Yeah, they are. The constitution and federal law are basically meaningless. Anyone who could say no to Trump like judges or state governments are being systematically undermined so only Trump has true control. At best, such groups can buy time until they’re absolutely subdued.