The other poster is a raging asshole and not even remotely explaining himself well because he’s too busy being a raging asshole.

What they’re saying is that Trump and this regime have effectively redefined what an EO is and what purpose they serve by making them essentially royal decrees, and the system has largely just gone along with it.

Nope, just you for not understanding my point.

From the OG post:

EO’s are not laws.

Let me make it really fucking clear for those in this thread that ride the short bus:

Because of Trump v United States, EOs are now above the law.

So yes, EO’s can and always have had the ability to undo previous EO’s. I’ve literally never debated this, so please get better reading comprehension.

However, never in the entire history of the United States have EO’s been used to illegally override actual fucking laws, or take the balance of power from Congress to control federal funds.

Specifically:

https://www.uclawsf.edu/2025/02/28/experts-examine-legal-limits-of-trumps-sweeping-executive-orders

… the federal government’s spending power, which is controlled by Congress. He pointed to the Impoundment Control Act of 1974, which restricts the president’s ability to withhold funds authorized by Congress, and the Supreme Court’s 1998 ruling striking down a presidential line-item veto enacted by lawmakers.

So, to be clear, it’s completely fucking illegal for a president to withhold funds authorized by congress. That is the law, it’s quoted above. Look it up.

Okay. Cool. So now here are several of trumps EO’s completely breaking that law:

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/guides/trump-funding-freeze-faq/

On Jan. 21, 2025, the Trump administration’s Office of Management and Budget issued memo M-25-11 to pause all green energy disbursements previously approved by congress.

The Jan. 27, 2025, memo M-25-13 (“Federal Funding Freeze Memo”) implemented the federal funding executive orders and placed a government-wide temporary pause for distributing grants, loans and other financial assistance on the related subjects Trump didn’t like despite being approved by congress.

President Trump’s executive order titled “Implementing the President’s Department of Government Efficiency Initiative” required agencies to review all contracting policies, procedures and personnel; prepare guidance on efficiency; stop new awards; and expanded DOGE’s authorities to examine, cut or modify federal spending across agencies despite being approved by congress.

So, ALL of these EO’s are completely fucking illegal. Period. Read the above law.

Trump has now used dozens more of them to completely bypass the impound Control Act of 1974 and hold funds from Congress to distribute as he sees fit. That check and balance no longer exists. That function of Congress is now a function of the executive branch because of a fucking EO.

How can these EO’s bypass the law if EO’s are supposed to be beneath it?

You need to have an actual answer for this question to have a point. Otherwise you’re just stupid.

From your own links:

His administration also has been hit by more than 100 lawsuits as of Thursday, contending that the president has overstepped his authority under the Constitution, according to ABC News.

This is because Congress are the only ones that can approve budgets. Not a president’s EO, that’s blatantly unconstitutional. As I have now basically drawn in crayon for you.

Trump can use an EO to do whatever illegal thing he wants. So it doesn’t really matter that undoing previous EO’s is completely legal does it? Because even if that WAS illegal, he could still fucking do it because of the power his EO’s have from the Trump v United States ruling.

How are you all too stupid to understand this basic logic?

Congrats for having the profoundly naive ability to look exclusively at the few EO’s Trump has legally issued while ignoring his dozens of others that hundreds of lawyers agree break the law and our constitution.

Believe it or not, I do understand Trump can actually follow the law with an EO, but my point is how that doesn’t at all matter when he can, has, and will continue to overwhelmingly use them illegally. Your point is completely fucking moot given these facts. Which indeed makes look stupid for not understanding mine.

You might as well point out some things Hitler did legally while you’re at it, seeing as you’re already making the same kind of stupid argument here.

Yeah, they are. The constitution and federal law are basically meaningless. Anyone who could say no to Trump like judges or state governments are being systematically undermined so only Trump has true control. At best, such groups can buy time until they’re absolutely subdued.