Sipping tea from beer mugs with his co-workers, Kyle Bos listed the ways his life is changing.

Bos has two daughters, with a third due in January. At the grocery store, five items cost as much as a full cart once did. And on Wednesday, Bos and nearly 1,400 other people were laid off from their jobs at what had been the Navistar truck factory in southwestern Ohio.

The layoffs — occurring just three days before President Donald Trump’s rally on Saturday at a nearby high school — were large enough to basically erase an entire year of job growth in the greater Dayton, Ohio, area. And they are one reason why Bos, 30, plans to spend the final weeks before the November election canvassing votes for Democrats.

Asked how many times he had voted for Trump, Bos held up three tattooed fingers. But he said he’s done with the president.

“Something has to change politically in this country,” said Bos, a member of the United Auto Workers who identifies as a centrist. “Seems like it just kept getting worse and worse and worse.”

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    I didn’t think voting for a corrupt industrialist who is markedly anti union would effect my labor job in manufacturing!!! who could have known?!

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      But… at a certain point, lack of a decent education, critical thinking or intelligence becomes the driving cause. And that isn’t their fault. So it is hard to say someone like the guy in the story truely deserved this. He deserved better. He deserved to be protected by those who had the mental capacity and education to see the reality of trump. Those who saw it, and supported it anyway are the ones who deserve to pay the price.

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        I concede that there is a line where it’s not totally your fault, but I think there’s still some blame.

        Overall, it’s expensive to be poor, not everyone has time to be educated, and sometimes you don’t know what you don’t know. Our systems are set up to fail you in a lot of ways, and education is another battleground.

        I don’t think that absolves you when there are constant headlines talking about the blatant racism, homophobia, crass hatred, the last time they were in office, the economic plans. Hell the more I think about it, the more in your face it all is.

        It’s not all the blame, it’s definitely more than none.

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          I think a fair number of people don’t watch or read the news. And I don’t really blame them. But when it co,es to the uneducated who do… the ones I know (very small data size) believed that the bad things about trump were fake news. And I get that. The news media is pretty blatant with all the clickbait and sensationalization of the news. They have plenty of reason to distrust it. It takes a lot of effort to keep up with which news sources are still mostly reliable. I don’t see a lot of uneducated people who are working manual labor jobs having the energy and motivation to put in that kind of effort. And the article makes a subtle point. The gov wasn’t improving his life, so he voted for someone different, hoping for change.

          I will admit way back when trump ran in 2016, I thought maybe the fact that he was getting real attention might shake things up. I assumed he would lose like he always did over the years. Yet, he certainly has shaken things up. Maybe in the long run, we might see some real change. I kinda doubt it, but who knows. The rise of the social democrates or whatever we are calling them is at least a step forward.

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    Keep munching on the shit sandwich from MAGA and guzzle down the Orange Kool-Aid. Zero sympathy, you voted for it.

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    And Trump will tell people at the rally to stop complaining because affordability is a hoax by the democrats and it would have been so much worse if Biden was president. And far too many people will leave the rally believing it.

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      Family member of mine said it’s because the the Democrats have the Senate and Representatives… He was/is brain washed and didn’t realize who is holding power right now

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        I have to make sure I heard that correctly. You’re saying you have a family member that believes the House and Senate are currently controlled by democrats?

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          That is correct. He didn’t believe it when I told him. I think when you hear fox news all day you’re left with that assumption

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    I’m straight up ready to abandon the American blue collared workers. They have been willingly duped for too long. Let them starve

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      “Why are the unions turning against the left? Must be AM radio.”

      Not that neolinerals being “the left” didn’t cause this problem in the first place.

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      And that’s the point!

      Pretty much no viable Republican would say such a thing. They’ll do 10,000 things that make it clear they’ve abandoned blue-collar / working class people. They’ll support 1,000,000 more things that make it clear they’ve abandoned blue-collar / working class people. But they would never actually say they abandoned (or are ready to abandon) blue-collar / working class people.

      So, Republican/MAGA managed to take near total control of the 3 branches of the USA’s federal government, a huge portion of state governments, and an enormous amount of local governments without even having to really try. Because “the other side” is more than happy to abandon the folks who voted for it.

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        Lying in parliament should be a crime. These things should matter when you are a decision maker for a country. Calling them out on it somehow makes the accuser seem petty?! We need to ditch 17th century sensibilities and take these tools to task for their malignant mismanagement.

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        They knew he was a full of shitz, everyone has known trump is full of shit for many decades. They just thought he couldn’t fuck it up that badly and he’d be real mean to immigrants and queer folks. Yes, willingly duped.

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          I try to keep a pulse on this thing, i live in deep maga territory. I understand the instinct to believe everyone knows they are being duped, but after i spent time getting to know some Trump supporters i have become deeply infuriated at the education system: they are indeed that dense. For disadvantaged men, at least, the culture of being tough and masculine leads to a lot of unaddressed trauma that is then channeled by the media to reinforce conservative ideology.

          It is not that complicated to see, for example: being gay is bad in the ideology, anything deemed as gay is ostracized; human sexuality is a spectrum and only a small minority are perfectly straight, so any given man probably has some subtle gay feelings they have to repress. These men are then fed the story that they are better than the gay men because they (the conservatives) have self restraint. This contempt that has been manufactured is then translated directly into votes, because why would one let “reckless unrestrained fools” (my paraphrasing of perspective) run the country?

          This is why culture war nonsense is so damned important, if people knew they were being fooled the culture war wouldn’t work.

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    “Something has to change politically in this country,” said Bos, a member of the United Auto Workers who identifies as a centrist. “Seems like it just kept getting worse and worse and worse.”

    It’s you. You have to change. You won’t. You voted three times for the guy who has never taken responsibility for his own actions.

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      Did you read the paragraph before that one? Because it sort of seems like you didn’t.

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      The problem was that Trump sold himself as the change. He said he was the outsider who was going to clean up Washington. Heck I even voted for him the first time, because honestly, I never in a million years thought he was going to win. Irregardless, we are all in echo chambers: the left, the right, whatever you believe in. The little square of doom running on the algorithm that wants to keep everyones attention on the little square of doom has figured out how to give everyone the confirmation bias they crave and keeps everyone engaged with thinking that theyre the only ones who understand.

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        I even voted for him

        irregardless

        Well I know what kind of guy got duped by the dumbest con man in politics

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        The problem was that Trump sold himself as the change. He said he was the outsider who was going to clean up Washington.

        Oh bullshit.

        The only change he sold was the ability to drop the mask and be openly bigoted and hateful again.

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          I wasn’t talking about now, I was talking about 2016. Unfortunately, when he didnt “drain the swamp” people still thought that he was going to in 2020 and 2024. They held on to that change narrative when it wasn’t going to happen.

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        Heck I even voted for him the first time, because honestly, I never in a million years thought he was going to win

        Exactly, we have the president our people deserve. Just voting for shits and giggles.

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    Asked how many times he had voted for Trump, Bos held up three tattooed fingers. But he said he’s done with the president.

    Look, I was all in for ruining other people’s lives, but now that I lost my job, I’m out

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      Now he’s “done with the president.” Well he’s fucking term limited so he bravely made his choice after he no longer had the option to make it.

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      Now that Trump can’t run again and isn’t even going to be on the ballot I’m done with him.

      (Ya I know Trump is going to try to stay in office but if that man lives another 2 years the world ended anyways.)