• zebidiah@lemmy.ca
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    1 month ago

    Jimmy Kimmel needs to do a solid 15 minutes of nothing but Charlie Kirk material when he returns

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      He needs to bash cowardly media executives for the entire segment and then quit at the end, after encouraging people to keep boycotting.

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      There’s a skill to recognizing when you have your opponent by the balls. This is one of those times. That night, Kimmel can get away with just about anything short of uncensored f-bombs and nudity. What could they possibly do? Un-un-cancel him?

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    1 month ago

    “We didn’t know you’d be this mad”

    I’ll be deeply disappointed if Kimmel apologizes for anything.

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      He really ought to work a quick cut of that clip into his new monologue. He doesn’t have to be talking about Charlie, just something about the latest announcement from Trump, run the clip, oops, that’s still in the machine from when they axed me last week, here’s the new one, something about autism.

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    Until the board & Iger are tossed, I’m still not going to give you assholes, or your advertisers, any more money.

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      It’s not Disney’s fault, really. It’s Sinclair and Nexstar, the affiliate networks. They’re the ones that could have pushed back without drastic financial consequences, and they’re the ones that pressured ABC to can the show.

      Disney management has a fiduciary responsibility they cannot ignore. They handled this as well as they could (and likely raised hell behind closed doors).

      Put your ire where it belongs: the fascists and their supporters, not the businesses trying to survive this hellscape without breaking laws

      There are LOTS of reasons to hate Disney and their management but this isn’t one of them IMO

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        Disney management has a fiduciary responsibility

        I’m so sick of this braindead god-damned cop out. A fascist authoritarian has seized power. If your FiDuCiArY rEsPoNsIbIlItY necessitates absconding moral and ethical responsibilities, let the stupid company burn. Sacrifices must be made to achieve and maintain self governance.

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        Disney management has a fiduciary responsibility they cannot ignore.

        Sorry, but this is a complete misunderstanding of how this works.

        Recognizing that pulling Kimmel’s show would result in severe harm to the brand, short term and long term, matches that responsibility as well. Shareholders can even make the decision to claim the board (and specifically Iger) were in violation of their duties with this decision. The blowback was obvious and expected.

        They absolutely are at fault.

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          There has literally never been a case where defending free speech or any other ethical/moral position in the face of imminent business contract impact has successfully been used to defend against a breach of fiduciary responsibility claim.

          You are talking about an imminent threat of action from extremely powerful business partners vs a nebulous argument towards the impact of moral decision making on profitability. Quite the contrary, there is a huge body of evidence that shows behaving immorally is often the most profitable behavior.

          Brand damage from taking a show off the air for a week is far easier to undo than the fallout from two major affiliates cancelling their contracts for your entire network.

          Sorry, I know what point you’re trying to make, and you are theoretically correct but because it’s completely unprovable with no precedent you are practically incorrect.

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            vs a nebulous argument towards the impact of moral decision making on profitability.

            No, its that vs the clearly expected consumer response, which has a permanent brand impact and a short term subscriber/vacationer/etc impact, not to mention the 2% drop in stocks (an over $4b impact).

            Ignoring ethics, this was a bad business decision. The long term impact is obviously not yet known, but the short term impact was rapid and strong.

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    I don’t watch Kimmel. Nothing particularly against him I’m just not that into late night shows. But the real test here will be whether he’s been gagged from specific topics and people.

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      None of this, not one iota, is about what we watch. I see person after person commenting “I don’t watch Kimmel, but…”

      Frankly, it could have been censorship of a right wing show like Charlie Kirk and our response should be the same.

      It’s not about our preferences. It’s about Freedom of Speech and the articles in the Bill of Rights.

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      If he doesn’t come out swinging by mentioning front-and-center how the president and corporation colluded to have him censored, then he still lost.

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      Why would trump be mad? This proves that we’re living in an atmosphere where he can do whatever he wants, and only a massive response can do anything to stop him.

      This means that while he won’t get away with censoring Kimmel, he will get away with censoring many, many others that do not have the support Kimmel has.

      It’s genuinely mob rule.

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        Why would trump be mad?

        It proves his power isn’t absolute, so I can see him requiring a huge dose of

        (Although, according to RFK Jr and his voice that ressembles a garbage disposal and his face that looks like a microwaved Mel Gibson, that could cause autism).

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    Yeah, awesome, amazing. I’m so stoked. Really … No, I love the man show guy, and late night TV is so relevant. But… I’ll leave Disney+ cancelled. I’m not really into the whole capitulation to fascism thing. It just kinda seems like Disney only cares about the bottom line, money. Thanks, and fuck you Mickey. It’s weird that you own pluto when you are best friends with goofy. Totally fucked up. They are both dogs.

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      This is how capitalism works… it’s about the dollar you make today, not tomorrow or the next… it hurt the dollars they made, so they had to respond… nothing more nothing less…

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      Are they really both dogs though, I mean one of them is fully anthropomorphised, walks on two legs, talks, etc, while the other is more like just a normal dog. Seems like different species to me.

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    ‘you can come back, but here is the list of things you are not allowed to talk about… in fact, we need you to run your scripts past our lawyers 4 weeks in advance.’

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    I’m glad he’s back, but I hope he finds a better venue. If Disney is going to flip on a dime, it’d be better if he left for a more reliable brand (if possible).