• Treczoks@lemmy.world
    19·
    2 days ago

    Happened to my daughter: She’s studying abroad, with an English speaking course of mostly non-native speakers (she is also no native English speaker, but has a better command of the language than most Americans). Co-students were actually asking her which AI she was using because her papers were so good…

    • ulterno@programming.devEnglish
      6·
      2 days ago

      I have seen people have this tendency to be unable to believe that anyone they know can actually do something they find difficult.
      That’s probably the same type of people that see some highly acclaimed work (from someone they don’t know) and thrusting celebrity status onto the creator.

  • ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    8·
    2 days ago

    Me when I have to interact with a website slowly because my natural rate is too fast and it triggers a bot detection warning

  • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
    121·
    2 days ago

    I spent so much time in academia. A lot of us are trained to make objective and impersonal analysis (such as avoiding the use of personal pronouns “I”, “we”, “us” etc.), which I did not realise before sounds dispassionate and cold to laymen. Someone asked me if I’m a bot because apparently I sounded like an anime character. A couple of times, I get into arguments because normal folks would accuse me of “yOu aRe mAkInG ExCuSeS tO TyRaNtS!!” for making a realpolitik analysis of a situation (/r/geopolitics in Reddit is heavily derided for this by average Redditors).

    Academically trained folks are ingrained to be conscious of bias and rather encouraged to be more descriptive with the analysis, and less with prescriptive. Otherwise we’d get accused of bias. But when academics do voice out their opinions based on evidence and careful study, they’d be accused of bias. I probably don’t need to elaborate how often educational institutions are accused of being left or liberal. News flash: academics do not come in with inherent bias towards left/liberal thinking, it’s just that their study led them to be more left leaning. Wait until I tell people I am an advocate for a world government by giving UN more power. I might be accused as a globalist bot.

    • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.netEnglish
      4·
      2 days ago

      i dislike, but accept, academic style. my argument against it is that the total reliance on passive voice makes research FAR less accessible to people for whom english is a second languange and neurodivergent people. older academics tell me i’m being anti-intellectual. younger academics tell me they don’t know what passive voice is and don’t believe it exists.

      i don’t really… know what to make of that divide, if i’m being honest

      • MDCCCLV@lemmy.caEnglish
        2·
        1 day ago

        That’s why you usually have a paper and then a popular media article written based on it that’s what people actually see and read.

      • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
        3·
        2 days ago

        my argument against it is that the total reliance on passive voice makes research FAR less accessible to people for whom english is a second languange and neurodivergent people. older academics tell me i’m being anti-intellectual.

        That’s fair and completely understandable. One of the major reasons for anti-intellectualism are experts talking down on average people. A lot of experts and academics are typically affluent who hardly have to live with salt-of-the-earth, everyday workers and working class. It’s a well-known problem who in academia who scoff at student and laypeople. I am not an academic by profession, although I try to know the audience and talk to their level. But I admit that maybe I have come across as smug before without realising it.

        younger academics tell me they don’t know what passive voice is and don’t believe it exists.

        I guess the person just have to read academic literatures in their field to get the grasp on how to speak passively. It took awhile for me to master it.

        • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.netEnglish
          2·
          2 days ago

          usually the younger cohort defaults to passive voice in all communication.

          also i didn’t think you came across as a problem at all! sorry if it seemed like i was criticizing you or your position. this is a very general frustration i’ve had with academia ever since i wrote my senior ethics paper

    • JcbAzPx@lemmy.worldEnglish
      31·
      2 days ago

      Maybe learn to switch out of the academic style for social media? Like do you include citation footers in texts to your family?

  • Stonewyvvern@lemmy.world
    7·
    2 days ago

    Ellipsis…use ellipsis often. AI seldom, if ever, uses them…So your responses don’t have the look and feel of AI.

    • rumba@lemmy.zipEnglish
      4·
      2 days ago

      My MIL was in town for Thanksgiving, and there was a lot of MASH watched.

      Holds up surprisingly well. I like it more now than I did in my childhood.

  • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works
    10·
    2 days ago

    That’s why I fill my points with insults and constant profanities. Can’t fucken accuse my borderline insane and blatantly violent rhetoric of being bots because im pretty sure my pros are bit shit. Also could a bot do this, you can now feel that post burn sensation on your tongue.

  • LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world
    315·
    3 days ago

    At this point I’d just consider it a compliment when someone accuses me of being ai. Oh you mean I spelled everything correctly and sound like a textbook? Thank you very much.

      • Paradachshund@lemmy.today
        10·
        3 days ago

        They’ll parrot back whatever attitude you’re talking to them in. I’ve seen screenshots of other people using them and the way they were talking was completely different from how they talk to me. I also get the monotone informational version.

        It can get really fucked up actually and contributes to people humanizing the chatbot.