An Oklahoma man who was doing target practice in his backyard on Christmas is believed to have shot and killed an elderly woman a few blocks from his home, authorities said.
Cody Wayne Adams, 33, has been charged with first-degree manslaughter in connection with the deadly shooting, court filings show.
The victim was on a covered front porch with family members at a residence in Comanche when she was shot Thursday afternoon, according to the probable cause affidavit. She was holding a baby in her left arm while seated on a love seat when she was struck in her right upper arm, according to the affidavit. The bullet then entered her chest cavity, it said.
Just gonna politely point out that America is living under extreme corruption and tyranny right now, and the 2nd amendment aint doing shit to help with that problem. Sure gets of innocent citizens killed, though.
Just like any expected conflict ever, the 2nd amendment caused an arms race - and the govt is far, far more heavily armed than the people.
System works as designed. The second amendment fuckwits never cared about freedom and democracy at all.
Except the freedom to have their murdertoys and power fantasies.
Who is protecting your democracy?
Well obviously Dale, the overweight guy who wants nothing more than owing guns and Nazis memorabilia
The common modern interpretation of the 2nd amendment being that gun sales and ownership must be almost completely unregulated is bullshit and not at all the way it was intended to be interpreted. It was supposed to protect the right of people to form and maintain local militias independent from the federal government, hence the “well-regulated militia” wording. The idea was that if local governments maintained their own militias consisting of private citizens it would create a collective military force capable of keeping the federal army in check. The modern emphasis on individual gun ownership with no organization has clearly not served this purpose.
And here I am at 42 considering a pistol for the first time, to protect against other crazy citizens.
Statistically speaking, buying that handgun is going to dramatically increase your odds of dying by firearm.
Buying a gun does make you more suicidal, as we can see the rise in suicides after buying a gun
Not sure who’s downvoting this but the claim is verifiable.
Here’s a John Hopkins report from 2023: https://publichealth.jhu.edu/center-for-gun-violence-solutions/data/annual-gun-violence-data
What I think is the most interesting, and a fact I learned taking a firearms safety course here in Canada, is that the highest risk remains suicide.
From the report: Gun suicides have accounted for the majority of all gun deaths each year since 1995.
I personally think suicide is my right. Also when someone says that they want a gun to protect themselves… and someone states that it’s more likely to result in a gun death, but forgets to mention the suicide part… it’s disingenuous and that’s probably why the downvotes. Say the whole statistic. Maybe it really is a mental health crisis and not a gun problem. The biggest danger to a gun owner is themself. It gives you the power to end your life at your leisure which is really bad… because you haven’t created enough shareholder value or paid enough taxes yet. How can you consider buying a gun to end your life when it life itself is so fucking magical ya know?
Either way Smith and Wesson issues my insurance policy. This is America people.
Kind of feel like we’re talking past each other.
Suicide is your right. No qualms with that. I support thoughtful assisted dying and no one can stop you from taking your own life if you are determined to do so.
But the comment mentioning a dramatically increased probability of death by firearm isn’t disingenuous. They were answering someone talking about acquiring a firearm to protect themselves from others. I think it’s reasonable to remind anyone considering a firearm for self protection to understand they’re more likely to die by firearm as a result of that choice no matter how the death occurs. Even if suicide is the bulk of gun deaths it’s not the only cause - and so while being even more fully informed is helpful, I don’t agree that the warning is misleading in any way, I’d argue it remains just as factual.
It also doesn’t have to be either or: it can be both a mental health crisis and a gun crisis.
I’m also not unilaterally anti-firearm; I enjoy long distance marksmanship and hand loading precision cartridges quite a bit. That said, I understand the choices I’m making and the risks that come with them; taking every precaution I can to protect those around me from harm.
Totally agree with you, I mostly take quarrel with OP you were replying to. Yes owning a gun makes you much more likely to die in a gun incident. It opens to door to so many preventable tragedies in your own home. I just feel like that statistic demands the explanation that this includes people who bought a gun with the intention of suicide. It includes all the people who bought a gun with intention to resolve a conflict. It includes the biggest most negligent idiots you know, who will probably be shot by their children in a “tragic” accident. If you’re a law abiding, risk mitigating person scared of ICE showing up at your door… and you’d like a fire arm because that feels tyrannical, I’m gonna say you’re gonna be a wee bit better off than the statistic suggests.
IKYK, sounds like we have similar views on firearms in America. Bit of a quagmire innit. Hate watching it be discussed without nuance.
Having a gun can turn that fleeting ideation into a permanent decision real quick.
Gun is probably the easiest cheapest way to access assisted suicide in the USA. That not-so-fleeting ideation probably drives a lot of people to the local Walmart to get a gun since its easier than getting a doctors appointment.
I know, probably partly because if you intend to use it, you’re more likely to get shot instead, or shoot yourself.That’s why it’s only a consideration, but also, domestic tensions are…less than ideal.
But I have no kids, I’d take lessons and practice first, and I’d never leave ammo loaded. I do not want a gun in my home. I’m fine keeping them animated and fired with a gamepad.
And I’d like to think in the very unlikely situation I’d need it, I wouldn’t, like, engage, like an idiot.
Honestly if you do end up getting a firearm, you should keep it loaded. Once you do your safety training, you will be more confident. If you ever have children in your home, please take appropriate security precautions.
Really no reason to keep it loaded at all times in your home. You keep a magazine loaded with the firm arm and hopefully you never have to chamber a round. Once you do your safety training you will be more engaged with risk mitigation, precautions, and laws. Safety training is mostly how to not-shoot(yourself and others). Knowledge and practice will bring confidence and confidence is knowing that you don’t need a loaded gun hiding around the house. Most people are like kids and may accidentally shoot you with your loaded fire arm they found lying around.
The way I see it, if a loaded gun were sitting in my house, it’s more likely to go off by accident than ever actually needing it.
Yea apparently everyone has delusions of shooting a home intruder or something. Another accident waiting to happen. Chances are you’ll never need to use said gun, but if you do, it’s really easy to say " I have a gun and will use it" and load a gun. Give your imaginary burglar a chance to retreat.
Disagree, arms can absolutely be used to resist tyranny. Look at any resitance movement in history. They were effective. French resistance, Viet Cong, Taliban, etc.
Each of these were far out gunned, but they won. In the case of the French resistance is probably more accurate to say they were effective then the allies showed up, but still.
There’s more of a lack of willingness to rebel in the US. Power works, people have food, and the largest demographic of the population isn’t being shipped off by ICE.
Did you know that many 20th century historians argue that the French resistance was irrelevant to the outcome of the occupation? The Tienanmen Square protesters had captured stockpiles of small arms, how’d that go? There is no debate about the Black Panthers, Weather Underground, or any other left movement willing to do violence. They were all crushed by the US Government. I’m sorry to report, but Hampton was wrong: you can kill a revolution by killing revolutionaries.
If you’re interested in history, I’d point out that successful revolutions are often accompanied by military defectors. The military guys will bring the guns. (and the ability to actually fight, unlike the average GI Jabroni)
Are you saying the black panthers did not use guns to effectively further their goals? I’d agrgue they were so effective, like those poor Chinese people, they had to be completely annihilated by the powers that be, but their influence outlived their lives and organizations. Both movements had tangible results and still inspire people to this day. FFS you’re talking about them right now.
A small force occupying an urban square will not work. And was not the methods used by any group I mentioned. Yes if you sit in one spot superior numbers and technology always win.
Which is why every example I gave you didn’t do that. Tactics do matter. Some revolutions succeed some do not. Either way you need guns
The Bolsheviks are a good example. They started the revolution with the workers and peasants, because that’s the only way to start a revolution, but when the government turns the military on its own people they could then recruit them to the revolution.
its usually the people on the right that are touting the 2nd admen, and they are okay with the faciscm.
Oh there are plenty of lefty gun-brains, preparing for either the revolution or wanting to protect against a fascist government.
They’re all gravely mistaken when they think that gun ownership does anything except increasing statistics for gun deaths and police shootings.
Im going to provide a brilliant revelation for you. It’s okay to have contingency plans and to try to mitigate risk. The fascist government is here. The desire to protect yourself from it may manifest itself in many forms depending on where you are from and how you were raised. Your thoughts on your civic duty, your duty to your family and community, and your personal safety may just be worth looking into! Now that the authoritarians are in charge you actually think that preparing for that event was a bad idea? Still? Can we check back in on this sentiment in another year please. lol, lmao even.