Videogame executive Xu Bo, said to have more than 100 children, and other elites build mega-families, testing citizenship laws and drawing on nannies, IVF and legal firms set up to help them
Ok let’s end billionaires
On the one hand, this is objectively grotesque and there should be laws that better prohibit this kind of misuse of surrogacy.
On the other hand, I don’t trust that the WSJ didn’t develop this story with top-down ulterior motives - namely to shift public (and possibly actual Justices’) attitude in favor of Trump’s executive order ending birthright citizenship ahead of the Supreme Court case.
Oh, a billionaire says he has over 100 children and it becomes a whole anti-immigrant panic article in the WSJ.
It’s paywalled so I can’t know for sure, but I bet they don’t even verify the claim. I bet they ran with this because they’re onboard with the ending of birthright citizenship.
The WSJ may sometimes be less evil than Murdoch’s other companies but at the end of the day this is a Murdoch publication and it must not be trusted too much. The ultimate purpose of the article is to build right-wing outrage. The other comments already do a great job explaining how it’s really the billionaires who we need to rein in.
This is less about nationality and citizenship as it is about billionaires skirting laws and exploiting the poor. In this case, it’s just foreign billionaires exploiting American poor.
So karma from last century?
Ooooh, I remember this game!
Yes, we average Americans are certainly guilty of the sins of previous generations.
Even first generation Americans, who are children of immigrants, like me, and had no choice in where they were born.
Naturally, we are de facto guilty of everything some rich assholes and our government’s policies have done to the world, and we must pay for it with our lives and livelihoods.
Oh, also, none of the contributions in the sciences, arts, and literature from normal Americans ever made life better for people around the world.
We are a cancer upon the planet and must be exterminated. It’s just “our karma”. We americans are bad and deserve all the bad things in life.
Am I doing it right?
Are you American bro? Like are you here right now while we are scrapping science for theology? You’re going to brag about some shit your great grandparents did while it gets flushed down the toilet. Get a grip lmao our nation is in an irreversible state of decline that we get to preside over. Buckle up ur gonna need to be tougher than this comment suggests.
Settle down, tough guy.
All that rabid American pride in the current climate makes me sick tho big chief. look in the mirror we don’t value human rights at home or abroad. Anyone can make a joke at americas expense. especially right now, but I still got my second amendment to protect my first. Would you like to know more? You seem to already know what I think but I’d happily elaborate why I made that comment. Your original assumption in your straw man left you looking pretty ridiculous so I’d love to see you try to pivot.
Who needs to pivot?
If we’re playing the game of false equivalencies, my sarcasm said everything that needed to be said about your blithe presumptions about “karma” for entire nation of people.
Also, “karma” doesn’t actually mean “comeuppance”, or “consequences”; it means (roughly) “work”.
Source: I have Northwestern Brahmin Indian blood, and was made to thoroughly study the Vedas, Puranas, Ramayan, Mahabharat (and the Bhagavad Gita contained within it).
Well that opens up like 3 layers of this onion you dropped on my plate. See I didn’t even have to straw man you! The stereotypes are working on overdrive for me. Holy shit. What can I even say that hasn’t been said at length. If you are American then why would you not use the American use of the word Karma? like popularized on the internet, commonly used for the last 20 or so years Karma. The one an average American would identify with and not the hindu translation. You sure hold a lot of US pride for someone who doesn’t understand US context on popular language? ‘instant karma’ there is no way you exist in America and don’t understand the context I was using.
NEXT
Citizens and residents of the United States don’t deserve to be exploited by foreign billionaires, to keep in context to the comment you originally responded to.
What you said implies a justification for the exploitation of the “American poor” (OP’s words) due to or for the “karma for the last century” (your words). If we replace “karma”, with “comeuppance” or “consequences” to keep in line with the “American context”, it still sounds stupid.
So once again, to be clear without sarcasm, an entire nation of millions of people who trace their identities and heritages from every corner of the planet don’t deserve said exploitation from both domestic and foreign billionaires.
As an aside, the “American definition” of karma comes from an incorrect definition from the first British translation of the Bhagavad Gita by Sir Charles Wilkins in 1785 during their colonial occupation of India. I commented about it because of how stupid it sounded to me, given my background and understanding of its concept.
Is this where I say, “NEXT”?
and I literally said none of that I guess if you understood US china relations from 1980- present you would have maybe detected the comedic irony there. I bet ur really fun at parties.
im American. I think it’s funny that we are now being exploited by the Chinese elite that we made during the last 50 years while exploiting their populace for the cheap toys your mom clearly did not give you enough of. LOL
Oh look, rich people being absolute pieces of shit…yet again. On an unrelated note, Free Luigi.
Given current political distractions being thrown about to make us lose sight of the Epstein Files, I presume the timing and flavor of this article is the WSJ working to support ending birthright citizenship in the US in aid of the racist fucks in charge of the US government.
They have to come up with a convincing rationalization for those who won’t just blindly respond out of their own natural primitive xenophobic impulses.
“Look, some bad people are exploiting our system, so we should ignore an entire amendment rather than address this particular issue with legislation that doesn’t also hurt millions of others.”
“This bathwater is dirty, why do you insist to keep bringing up babies!”
That was my first thought as well.
Elon Musk: Doesn’t everyone do that?
Elon’s only had 14. Man is clearly slacking.
“Whatever you do, there’s a Chinese person somewhere that does it 10x better”
Of course, what rich person hasn’t had the idea of stealing Genghis Khan’s behavior that left around 8% of modern day China his ancestor.
His decendents?
What the fuck? Well no worries Trump about to get his way and outlaw that in America. But goddamn what’s the end game here?
Billionaires
I think you missed this part. Trump’s more likely to try to make it illegal to criticize them
Can’t they simply buy citizenship for $1 million now too?
The endgame is to build a dynasty. With a 100 kids and billions of dollars he can basically play Queen Victoria and put his kids in positions of power. He can give his kids the best education at the most prestigious schools where they meet the kids of the other elites. He can basically build a massive old boys network within his own family. In the future some of his kids will be leaders of industry, lobbyists and even politicians.
And with so many kids and money good chance one becomes a US senator or even the president
He said he hoped to have 20 or so U.S.-born children through surrogacy—boys, because they’re superior to girls—to one day take over his business.
Several of his kids were being raised by nannies in nearby Irvine as they awaited paperwork to travel to China. He hadn’t yet met them, he told the judge, because work had been busy.
Goes on to describe many such cases.
China currently has a 3 child max policy, at which point I don’t see the need for a limit. This is something else though.
Hey I was about to post about Irvine. The guy that was getting downvoted is kind of right about “farm house”, but not really. It’s more of a tourism kind of things, they come when they are closing to delivery.
Live close to Irvine. It’s kind of like the rumor that goes around neighboring cities.
Ok, but have they considered having Canadian babies? American baby values have to be tanking right now.
Right now America is probably the best country in the whole world if you’re a billionaire, whole fucking place is being sold around us…
You think some asshole who made billions of dollars on VIDEO GAMES would be more chill, but they’re all assholes I guess.
Sounds like a big pile o bullshit.
The US is a failed state at this point. Ain’t no one queuing up to get in.
Why is it so easy for billionaires to have children while the working class struggles?
Children are a fixed cost, and all fixed costs become insignificant exponentially fast as you become super rich.
$200,000 to raise a child until age 18 is four years’ wages if you make $50,000 a year, and after living expenses, unsustainably unaffordable.
Elon Musk makes $24 million an hour. He can afford 120 more children through age 18 every hour.
Even with surrogacy costs added, it’s next to nothing to billionaires, just more assets and a different kind of wealth they can create.
Interesting.
I’m glad we keep saying “they’re a business and they need to make money” so they can have a much easier time raising a family than any of us.
Poor people have children all the time. In my daughter’s class at school 2 of her friends are from families with 7 siblings. And we live pretty regional. I honestly don’t know how they make ends meet.
But it’s not stopping people from having kids.
