• Rhaedas@fedia.io
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    Suck up.

    He would have rather you and your friends just obeyed the damn rules of the place, and is probably embarrassed you’ve made even more of a big deal about him just doing his honorable job. Because it isn’t really about him, is it? It’s about making you look better in light of what’s coming for you.

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      Yup. If he meant it, the appropriate reward would have been an “attaboy” mention later on.

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        The best thing from his position would have been not have it happen. Anyone who goes there is given notice on the atmosphere required. If kids can behave, adults should be better.

        The second would have been just a real apology afterward to the press, and not call out the soldier doing his job to give him some award.

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          The second would have been just a real apology afterward to the press, and not call out the soldier doing his job to give him some award.

          Or a private apology to the guardsmen there (and that soldier personally), not one that was public at all. That’d be the only way to convey that he was actually remorseful, and wasn’t just making it a press event for his own benefit. But of course that isn’t what he did, because he doesn’t give a shit.

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        I can only assume you thought I meant Hegseth and not that soldier. Which I did not.

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            Odd question to ask the day after Armistice Day. But I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and bite.

            Many western countries created a Tomb of the Unknown after WWI to honor the dead that never got counted or identified. This job is considered honorable because of the significance that it carries to the nation.

            You gotta keep in mind that, back then, we didn’t have a standing army, it was a draft or nothing, so it was untrained boys that got called up and an entire nation that rallied behind them. (This is also the reason the NRA exists, to be a club that teaches citizens how to properly and safely use firearms, not the lobbying monstrosity it has become today)

            Its only in recent times, especially the Bush eras, that the homefront carried on as if nothing was different while a war was on. That’s one reason they’ve been able to have forever wars, because it could fall into the backdrop of society behind Real World and the Kardashians so we would forget to give a fuck about what our troops were doing. (This is also why “Support the Troops” was more common 20 years ago, because it called back to a time when it meant something, even though we now know it means fuck all)

            That wasnt how countries went to war back then. So because of the significance is why we allow that job to be considered honorable than most.

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            Because guarding the tomb is entirely symbolic, but it’s taken very seriously, and maintaining high enough standards to put yourself out there for scrutiny like that is hard as hell. Put the discipline and dedication required on top of all that and it’s very much a job worthy of respect, at least in my eyes

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            You should look into that position on wiki, it probably would give far more than any comments here. It’s very demanding, important symbolically, and it’s a huge honor for anyone to say they served it. It’s at the level of the King’s Guard in London, if maybe you’re more familiar with that.

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            It’s a voluntary position and an honor. It’s a boring, painstaking job. You’re doing it to honor fallen comrades.

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            Mass effect had it right

            “Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters. The silence is your answer.”

            It’s all just a dog and pony show but there is still no reason to go there and be disrespectful.

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              Their service as guards can help bring some level of comfort to grieving families, so I don’t find it entirely pointless.

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                Arguable. Many honorable people are remembered throughout time. Some cultures believe you never really die until the last person forgets your name. If I had to die at the hands of an enemy, I’d rather him respect me than die crying and begging for my life.

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            don’t worry if you don’t get it; this is one of those things people (americans, mostly) get super upset about for some reason. Can’t even say the robot gun dance is silly, for example.

            See?

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              When did honoring the dead and showing respect become an American thing?

              Just can’t help yourself can you.

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                  Out of curiosity, would you say the same about ceremony in any other instance (e.g. religious ceremonies / rituals, military parades, etc.)?

                  Personally I don’t understand the need or desire for any of it, but I can at least understand that some people do feel that it’s meaningful. I wouldn’t walk into a synagogue or a church or a mosque and start being disrespectful during their ceremonies, even if I don’t personally see the value. It’s the same here - even if you don’t see the value, to them and a lot of others, it’s very important and meaningful. Being disrespectful of that is at best very rude.

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                    yeah I think those ceremonies are inherently silly as well

                    not saying you shouldn’t be respectful and quiet but the way those soldiers do the overly robotic rifle check and salutes and stuff is mental