ICE official, who was sleeping on man’s lawn and appeared ‘intoxicated’, faces felony charges, California police say
A 72-year-old man shot an off-duty Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) official in California early on Friday morning after the “intoxicated and agitated” official assaulted him and his daughter on their property, local authorities allege.
The Fresno police department said that the ICE official was receiving medical care after being shot in the midsection. The official, identified as David Gonzalez, is facing felony charges for assaulting the father-daughter duo, Fresno police said.
It was not immediately clear for how Gonzalez had been with ICE and what exactly he did for ICE. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS), which oversees ICE, referred all questions about Gonzalez to Fresno police.
It should be legal to shoot ice agents, on duty or off, particularly if they, as usual, are masked and not following police procedures. And if the man was afraid for his life, as he definitely should have been if an ice agent was involved, the precedent set by multiple high profile recent cases in other states is that it was legal. I hope that jury finds the same.
Honestly, since ICE agents don’t provide any kind of id when asked, we shouldn’t refer to them as ICE agents, because that’s really unconfirmed. It would be more appropriate to say “masked man dressed as ICE agent”, because we can’t actually know that they’re an official rather than a criminal in a costume. And obviously, the correct and rational response to being assaulted or harassed by someone in a mask is to treat them like a criminal, and defend yourself appropriately.
This isn’t self-defense, it’s just plain murder. While I don’t agree with ICE wearing masks and acting lawless, calling for more violence is not the way. Don’t become the very thing you hate.
Shooting someone before they shoot you is deffo self defense wtf.
I agree with this but that’s not how OP framed it.
It’s murder like in killing a Nazi soldier in France as a French during Nazi occupation in WW2. Sure, it’s illegal under the occupation forces’ law. But it’s still the right thing to do.
I appreciate your sentiment against violence more than the community at large. While I do hate needless divisiveness, as many others have already said in this instance the person in question made a conscious choice to enact the hateful, barbaric policies of the trump administration as the instrument of violence for personal profit.
We who cherish tolerance must be the most mindful of the tolerance paradox.
Some armed, masked goon refusing to show ID trespasses on my property I’m not gonna greet them politely.
That’s a different circumstance though and is not what OP is advocating.
They willfully chose to become monsters. Your call for “humanity” is shielding evil from consequences.
Nazis are so very face-punchable
“DAE killing Nazis is murder?”
Stop the thugs, not the people punching back if you want it to stop. It’s cowardly to speak down, speak up and these poor folks will have nothing* to bitch about.
I really don’t think calling for no violence in a progressively more fascist, corporate-owned country that gets a hard on from shooting deadly weapons is logical.
It’s in their constitution, go wild guys. Better it used on the people harming society at large than anywhere else.
America can deepthroat the barrel of a nice thick gun and pull the trigger as the climax
You’re human garbage.
I don’t think you know how war works.
I don’t think you remember what war does to everyone who actually has to go do it instead of sitting on their asses telling other people to go do it.
But what does war do to people who won’t fight back, but is still forced upon them?
Mankind loses. War always wins, mankind always loses.