A 15-year-old student has had their hand blown off after picking up a stun grenade being used by police as mass school protests continue across France, local authorities said.
The incident comes as nearly 500 schools are expected to be completely or partially closed following student protests across the country over dilapidated schools and classrooms, overcrowding and teacher shortages preceding a nationwide day of demonstrations on Tuesday.
Almost melted my skin off picking up tear gas at Occupy Oakland. There were flash bangs. I hadn’t even considered what if I didn’t realize what I was grabbing.
Edit: same night I watch a decorated military officer in full regalia get shot point blank with non lethal shotgun. Right near the center of his chest iirc
That’s why they’re supposed to call it “less lethal” now. It gives them a loophole
Edit: same night I watch a decorated military officer in full regalia get shot point blank with non lethal shotgun
Based cop moment
This is why a lacross stick is a good tool at a protest. You can scoop and launch the grenade back without it getting in your hand.
Great time to practice your backshot too!
So they have money to brutalize children but not to teach them.
uh, the same “children” also set fires to schools and doused a Principal with gasoline.
Protests are important, but les enfants are going to need a lesson in le fuck around, le find out.
“officials said”
Oh, the cops told you that huh? And you believed them?
You are a sick piece of work, my friend. You hope that kids die. It’s disgusting.
A photo of TuaHawk during the American Civil Rights Movement
“They’re setting fire to schools!!! Kill them allllll!!!”
France does not fuck around with protesting. I’m honestly shocked the government hasn’t figured out how to de-escalate.
FaFo will just give them martyrs.
This is Lemmy, an anti-authoritarian anarchist bubble, where protestors are always 100% good and the state is always 100% bad. You can’t post balanced news reporting here. /s
It’s kinda funny how the left say they are so different from the right but use the same bubble mechanics where unwanted opinions are filtered out/suppresed lol. Horseshoe theory checks out lol.
So, I live in this country and you’re saying bullshit. We have witnesses saying people who set fire are not from the movement. When I was younger, I blocked my school and we already had that. They robbed delivery trucks, set fire to them, attacked cars and attacked us.
An eurodeputee captured images of cops, dressed as civilians, attacking their colleagues to start offenses. We saw similar records during our « yellow vests » protests.
Even if students did this, most of them disapprove. Also you have no confirmed profile yet anyway. And whoever did this does not deserve to lose his eye, jaw or hand.
What about the kid they tried to drawn? What about the 14 years old girl who got strangled? Do you have excuses for that too? Does it make you laugh?
Please, in the future, restrain from talking about topics you don’t know shit about.
Victim blaming is not “balanced news reporting”.
That first sentence of yours is very illuminating.
Lemmy is at a particularly extreme level of violence endorsement. If the people on here said the things that they usually say in public, in actual society and not their little bubble, they’d be rightfully locked up.
I talk about how Trump should fucking die every single day IRL, and not a single person has disagreed. My boss agrees. My therapist agrees. Literally everyone with a working brain agrees.
I worry about him getting assassinated because of the backlash and potential martyrization, but overall I think the world would be better, and lives would be saved if he took a forever nap ASAP.
If you think that means I ought to be locked up, you’re a fucking fascist. Stopping fascism is the moral choice here. Ask people if Hitler’s suicide was a tragedy if you’re confused by the concept.
That hasn’t prevented members of the U.S. government or ICE from being locked up
Important safety tip. If you plan on throwing stuff back at the cops, stun grenades, tear gas canisters, etc, use a lacrosse stick.
Of course, having a lacrosse stick in a riot is an excuse for them to beat you mercilessly.
Of course, they don’t need an excuse.
Username checks out
Umbrellas are a valid option at a protest, with a little 3d printing, you could have an attachable basket to attach to the handle.
And then you can shield yourself and others by opening the umbrella as needed.
Kevlar umbrella with tungsten reinforced frame?
Tungsten is too heavy. Just use a slightly thicker, hardened steel.
If you’re particularly crafty, it could be a fun machining project.
Brilliant!
Of course, having a lacrosse stick in a riot is an excuse for them to beat you mercilessly.
Depends on the country I guess. Carrying a Lacrosse stick could signal that you are white and rich, so cops can leave you be.
If in Canada, I would recommend a hockey stick. You can open carry those.
lacrosse net on one side, hock stick on the other
Bring the goalie mask too.
In the comments, it’s mentioned that the police claim that he picked up the grenade, but there is an investigation into whether that is the case or it was launched at him directly.
Regardless of whether the kid picked up the grenade, the mere fact that the grenade was launched towards kid is already crossing the line. They always try to make the people focus other things. It doesn’t even matter to them whether it was shot at him or he picked it up. As long as the focus does not lie on them shooting the thing in the first place.
Most of the patients I’ve had who became upper limb amputees from explosives had a closed hand around the explosive when it happened. You can hold something like a fire cracker in an open palm and walk away with mild burns. However, if you were holding the same firecracker in a closed fist I would be fitting you with a prosthetic in a few weeks.
Now I’m not sure exactly how much energy a stun grenade goes off with, but usually if the limb is irreparably damaged without also causing other bodily trauma, the patient was probably holding the device when it went off.
You can hold something like a fire cracker in an open palm and walk away with mild burns
I can attest that because I blew myself up with a pistol flare in 2025 (long and stupid story). My left hand at the moment of the explosion was half-stretched out and the charge blew up a few centimeters below my hand. Only superficial burns to the hand and permanent hearing damage.
If I had the charge in a closed fist, it would have easily torn a hole through my hand. And that was just 2 grams NEC. A stun grenade is much more powerful than a pistol flare (my completely random guess: 20g NEC equivalent), so I reckon that eviscerating the entire hand is not out of the question.
It doesn’t take much depending on the hand position when it goes off. We usually get about 2-3 people blowing up their hands in the trauma ward every year at the hospital during the 4th of July.
Some witness says the genade landed directly in his hand
That’s a weird way to say he caught it. The first sentence of the article says he picked it up. He doesn’t have to be a perfect victim to deserve sympathy or hold the pigs to account.
mmm catching a grenade wouldn’t make him any less a victim. They launched a less lethal device close enough to someone for them to catch it, can’t really go target blaming.
These “protestors” set fire to schools and doused one headmaster in gasoline.
So we have gone from protest to just idiot violence.
Did this child do that, would they deserve losing a limb even if they had?
I read that undercover police did those
I imagine the student thought it was a tear gas canister instead of the cops throwing explosives at children.
Less lethal weapons can still kill and maim.
Not even ‘can’ they’re more likely to.
Counterintuitively, ‘less lethal’ arms can be more lethal, since people fire them with impunity.
I heard once that boxing gloves made boxing more dangerous, because previously punching someone in the head would hurt your hands so you’d focus on their chest and belly. With gloves you were free to give them a brain injury instead.
That is true. Bare knuckle boxing is ironically safer for the athletes in the long term and avoids CTE/TBI related complications.
Boxing gloves became popular because it protected the hands from getting cut up when striking the skull, allowing prizefighters to have more bouts without having to wait for their hands to heal between each.
It’s a problem in football (US) as well. The pads and helmets mean they can hit head-to-head without risking a fracture. Instead, they get concussions and CTE.
ACAB
All Cops are Nazis
I think you should try and learn a bit more about history. Because what the nazis did was a lot worse than throwing a stun grenade at kids.
You could learn from history too. Our police statuses never changed from their creation, they are inherited from Vichy’s police. So it’s kinda a nazi thing, yeah. 😐
The Nazi in this context is fascism, not nationalism. When government and corporate interests are indistinguishable, that’s fascism. Cops uphold corporate/government interests. Cops do not uphold rights of citizens, nor do they protect them. Thus cops are Nazis.
Have fun being robbed, raped, and killed without police 🙄
Police is useless for that. It’s basic statistics.
There are other way to bring security and help than police you know. You can be creative and start thinking, it does not hurt. Reducing security to « police = security. No police = nothing in place = chaos » is intellectual laziness at its finest…
I guess self-defence isn’t an option then?
My home was burgled. The police did not prevent it and did not help afterwards.
The only thing that helped at all was insurance.
How many times have you avoided getting robbed, raped or killed due to police presence?
Homicide is about the only thing that they ever seriously investigate. If you’ve ever been robbed or raped, then you’ll know that they are laughably ineffective at catching and prosecuting the perpetrator, even when presented with evidence.
The very fact that these crimes are still committed speaks to the efficacy of a police deterrent, which is to say, none.
If you feel as if you cannot criticize your law enforcement, then law enforcement will inevitably become more and more corrupt over time. Everyone should scrutinize the fuck out of their local PD and never give them the benefit of the doubt on anything.
Yeah police don’t prevent none of this. They don’t prevent being robbed and if you’re not rich their investigation don’t turned out great, they don’t prevent women being raped and most of the time their investigation only make the victim relive their trauma and let the perpetrators go free. So yeah great example you got here
A heavily militarized police force enfringes on our contitutional right to assemble and protest.
When the French gave up on the
JilletGilets Jaunes (Yellow Vests) demonstrations in the face of Macron’s pushback instead of doubling down, this shit is what they were setting themselves for.Gilets Jaunes are planning a comeback on the 17th.
I really hope France leads Europe again in overthrowing the XXI century dynastic quasi-monarchy.
I mean. Did they try making sure billionaires get more while continuing to deprive the working class?
Centrist governments the world over, creating fertile grounds for fascist swings. Because centrists protect wealth inequality. Which is a tragedy of course because these fascist swings make wealth inequality even worse.
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