Bos has two daughters, with a third due in January. At the grocery store, five items cost as much as a full cart once did. And on Wednesday, Bos and nearly 1,400 other people were laid off from their jobs at what had been the Navistar truck factory in southwestern Ohio.
Asked how many times he had voted for Trump, Bos held up three tattooed fingers. But he said he’s done with the president.
I see a lot of hatred towards these people, it makes sense given what community we are in.
Personally, I don’t want them to suffer, but I do find humor in it, just as my coping mechanism.
I would be salty and get them to admit they were wrong, taking satisfaction in a big I told you so is much better than wanting more suffering even if they deserve it.
Don’t you think it’s to late now? He already lost his job. He’s not gana find another with the person he voted for 3 times.
And he’ll vote for the next GOP candidate telling himself he’s not voting for Trump again because his voters are too dumb to connect the dots.
He was fine with this happening to families other than his. I hope it gets worse for him.
That’s where we should be different. We should want them to see the error of their ways, but we shouldn’t want anybody to struggle to get food on the plate.
They had plenty of time for that BEFORE causing all of the damage that they did. No forgetting, no forgiveness.
Same, they don’t learn any other way.
I see a lot of people like this being treated with total contempt, which is your right, but a few things to keep in mind.
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Please remember 70% of voters are not Democrat. Democrats are 30% of voters, Republicans 30% of voters, and Independents are 40% of voters. Insulting and celebrating the hardships and deaths of those who don’t agree with you is a very bad look, and won’t convince anyone that your minority party (Democrats) is the cure.
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Very few people are actually informed. Their entire waking life can be their job and children. Spare time is spent in non-political activities, like watching a goofy show. Many people are juggling multiple jobs and don’t have a lot of spare time to research politics or history. Maybe zero time. So they go with their gut. (this is often wrong, but remains true). Make it easy for their gut.
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Keep in mind that you require independent voters to win every federal election. Would you like to win an election? Then you better get some Independent votes. Insulting and humiliating others does absolutely nothing for you. You could be totally right, your anger might be well founded, but it doesn’t help you.
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Do you agree that there are a significant amount of stupid people? These stupid people don’t like being called stupid, and take this all very seriously. You want the votes of stupid people. Would you like stupid people to vote for your party? Spending your days mocking and insulting anonymously can be a lot of fun, but it’s no way to WIN.
This is a big election upcoming, go out and vote! … and if you’re up for it, maybe try to be kind to a voter or three. It can only help your cause. Contempt hurts you.
I do not care about centrists, whether they want to say they are independents or whatever they want to go with. If the lack of fucks I have for them sends them to the right, they were gonba vote that way all along.
A lot of people voted for Trump knowing what he would do, but they didn’t think it would affect them. And if trump would “fix” things for them, they will go back to being happy pigs while watching others suffer. This was always about owning the libs, anyway.
They had a taste of Trump 1.0 and they still voted for Trump 2.0. That second or third time wasn’t a mistake. They knew what he was and they said they were ok with a moronic rapist pedo bully with narcissistic tendencies to having the nuke codes. People like this are not good people and I’m not going to sugarcoat it for them. They will vote red no matter how much you lick their boots, so fuck that.
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Trump could do what the Democrats never could, put a Democrat from Texas in the US Senate.
Wait the Democrat won?
You used the whole thing in past tense, as if the event already happened, not future tense.
What you wanted to say was “Trump did what the Democrats never could; make it very likely for a Texas Democrat to be elected to the Senate.”
By saying “put” you implied the event already came to pass.
English is a dumb language though so understandable for your mistake to be made.
The “could” earlier in the sentence applies to the phrase beginning with “put”. The grammar is fine, though the sentence is a little long.
Well then the rally should have an even higher turn out then.
Oooooof Cuck porn
“This year’s election is a test for the working-class coalition that lifted Trump into the White House and gave majorities to Republicans in the House and Senate” - the under-educated coalition? This is the only reason working class would vote Republican. Oh, hold on, bigotry too.
“If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.” - Lyndon B. Johnson
I always think LBJ is the best anti-hero we’ve seen. He’s crass and rambunctious but willing to sacrifice his own career to uplift a cause for the greater good. While most politicians are afraid to alienate a huge portion of voters, he’s willing to alienate the Southern voters to legislate the Civil Rights Act because who cares about racists.
Misinformation too.
Remember, none of us, even those of us on Lemmy, have ingested the same news and headlines.
Sure, there are shared overlaps in forums like these or among those who, maybe, only listen to Tucker Carlson and branch out from there for their worldly info.
Never assume other people know what you know. Let go of the belief that all the egregious shit you’ve read on Trump has been read by everyone, because it hasn’t.
There is no central news. No shared headlines.
Just TikTok, social media & its algorithms, and whatever podcasts/YouTube/NewsChannel we sporadically choose to consume on a level that most often resembles TikTok consumption.
We need an easily-digestible highlight reel of Trump crimes to show people.
The problem is that explaining just how bad even his first term was already takes nearly twelve hours. And his second term has been much, much worse.
It’s existed since he first announced running in like 2015. They do know about it and they don’t care.
Jordan Klepper has skits from the 2016 run through the attack on the capital where he would mingle with MAGAs when they gathered, because he looked like them. (Not much on the violent coup attempt, his fear in that crowd was evident, he grabbed footage at the edge then noped out).
He did get past the evade replies regarding bad things Trump was doing, occasionally, to the true reply which was exactly as you said: I don’t care.
We laugh at the evade replies because they’re so ridiculous, but the “I don’t care” is the real answer.
Exactly. We are so far beyond “do they know.” Imo these people should be culpable too to some degree. And I do have loved ones in the cult, which I’m sure we all do because it’s so massive.
We’re never going to get through this kind of shit if we keep giving fascists the benefit of the doubt. They will not give it to you and they applaud violence on innocent people, hate, inequality, etc.
There is no doubt on their side, why are we not listening to who these people are saying they are? They literally gloat about it. That’s what those hats became, very quickly. It’s a brag that they can be openly hateful now. Fuck that.
A lot of discussion/argument begins and ends with news source incompatibility so we don’t get down to “I don’t care” often.
Oh please. Its obviously ai generated fake news from the evil dumocrats
My favorite part is how he was the only one who could prevent new wars. And stop existing wars. It’s pretty cool how now there’s no more wars. Amerika is finely great again.
The President of Peace, winner of the inaugural FIFA Peace Prize. That’s serious, super serious.
He’s brought peace to the middle east at least a couple dozen times.
Don’t forget Ukraine! He made so much peace in Ukraine. Tremendous peace!
Day one! He truly has all the cards. Playing with a full deck he is.
I feel sorry for the children - but only the children
I’ll be honest, at first I read it as “I Got Punched In Ohio” and before reading the rest was wondering why that’s a news headline. Made me laugh when I realized.
Hahahaha. Love knowing so many of these people will be homeless. Don’t expect me to give you a dollar - gotta pull yourself up!
Hatred is a funny thing. You eventually adopt the mentality of those you hate.
I don’t think so. That’s their framing. If you are a hateful POS don’t be surprised when people hate you back. I look forward to their suffering for their choices.
You look forward to their suffering…
Paradox of tolerance
Tolerance means letting someone make their own choices, it doesn’t cover what comes next. It’s a disservice to tolerance to conflate the two.
false dichotomy. the opposite of wishing someone ill is not tolerance.
Oh yes i do. I want mass suffering.
That’s psychotic.
They only learn when they suffer. (When it finally affects them)
I haven’t seen evidence they learn regardless.
Showing kindness to those who don’t share their kindness with others will have you overworking for people who don’t care. They are, in a word, toxic. Toxic people don’t deserve the effort and grace given to them - they are to be met with the animosity they revel in showing others.
Yes, they’re toxic and hateful, yes they don’t care, yes they don’t deserve it, but I would argue empathy and kindness is what sets us apart from them. I still want to improve the lives of everyone, whether they appreciate it or not. But our benevolence shouldn’t extend to allowing Republicans to remain in power…
Agree with you. I have plenty of empathy for them, I know they have none for me, but that quite literally is the difference. I won’t let go of that for hatred.
The way to improve the lives of the hateful is to have them live the life they demand of others. It is speaking their language. If they don’t want to be treated as such they can change too. If or when they change I will be there to comfort and console them, to help them heal from their hate, but I am under no delusion that they will change from others being too nice to them. COVID shook that naivety from me.
showing empathy to people who don’t share your empathy is toxic. it’s toxic empathy is what it is.
…some people make horseshoe theory look real attractive. but really it’s just wilhoit’s law in action. the only seemingly workable politics left is conservativism.
So we went from “enjoying the suffering of others” to “kindness is conditional”…
Look, I’m not going to be nice to the people who want me and my friends dead, alright?
No one’s asking you to? The problem is assuming that all 1400 people laid off are Trump supporters and wishing them ill by association. “All farmers deserve suffering because 80% off farmers are Trump supporters!”
No what I’m saying is kindness is, indeed, conditional.
I’m sure for you it is.
Nobody in this thread says “all farmers” or implied all 1400 people deserve it. You’re being disengenous and arguing in bad faith.
You can tell they were all Trump voters because they committed the sin of living in Ohio, a state where 43% of people voted Harris!
You can tell they are Trump voters cause the idiot said he voted for Trump three times? These people are just fucking idiots they don’t get any sympathy from me.
My aunt is posting on Facebook to Mike Johnson to reconsider the social security cuts. Get your lazy ass to work and stop asking for handouts.
Oh dang, everyone fired was 1400 clones of that guy? My bad, I didn’t realize.
Needs to mention excuse Navistar gave for layoffs.
So he says. He sounds like a tree voting for the axe type.
