A federal appellate court ruled last week that Oregon may house trans women inmates in men’s prisons, overturning a lower court’s ruling earlier this year.
The three-judge panel of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals consisted exclusively of Donald Trump appointees. They voted unanimously to overturn an April ruling from U.S. Magistrate Judge Mark D. Clarke ordering the Oregon Department of Corrections to assume that trans women prisoners should be housed in women’s prisons, and then assess individual cases to confirm that placement, not the other way around.
This whole argument started because you challenged a definition…?
And an individual who presents as female is going to be much safer from sexual assault in a men’s prison? You think rape doesn’t occur in a women’s prison? This isn’t about rape for you, it’s about punishing and demeaning trans people.
No you didn’t. You said to throw them in solitary, but did not designate what prison.
That’s not how the prison system is defined. That’s not your original argument. You still do not have a an answer for people who do not fit in that binary. You are an idiot.
That’s your assumption. I couldn’t actually care less about people deluding themselves, whether its trans or furries or whateverthefuck. Practical realities. A person originally born a woman with a functional artificial penis can rape natural women just the same as a natural man.
Scroll up. I edited the comment a minute before your response.
Literally scroll up.
Not really an assumption… You just proved the point.
If it was practical you’d be able to state a coherent solution.
A woman without a functional penis can rape a woman as well… How does this increase or decrease the chance of rape?
You didn’t address the question, you asked one. You then said ideally there would be an individual prison for just intersex people?
Why wouldn’t we just make individual prisons for every race, sex, sexual orientation, religion, or gang affiliation? Its a non answer. The intersex population makes up around a percent of the global population.
Non answer. They do not have a separate prison. So which prison do they go to? It’s almost like your solutions are not practical or based on reality.
Also, don’t expect to have people reread your shit once you edit them. Take the time to make a coherent argument the first time or respond with a new post.
How common is that, compared to dick&balls raping vagina?
Lacking a special intersex prison, it’d be decided on a case by case basis, I don’t know what you want of me.
Noted
Sexual assault is reported at higher rates in women’s prison when compared to mens.
By what criteria would the courts determine this on a case by case basis?
I’m trying to get you to realize how silly your entire premise is, and how it is neither practical nor realistic. Transphobes always believe their prejudice to be practical, but when you actually ask practical questions their beliefs fail to reflect reality.
I have no idea. What do they do now?
So what’s your proposal, desegregate prisons?
That’s not what I asked though, is it? And what % of that is dick&balls “women” raping women? If anything, that adds to my point - segregate dick&balls from non-dick&balls.
They go by their self assigned gender.
My personal opinion would be prison abolition for any non violent crime. My pragmatic view would to go by gender.
I gave you answer more specific to the scenario? Your question has no pertinent application to people being held in detention.
What?
So essentially free-for-all? Terrific.
What about violent crimes?
We’ve already established that gender is about as relevant as hair color.
dick&balls “women” aka persons with dick&balls who claim they are women
I know that you may be fooled, but for most people it’s pretty easy to determine if someone has changed their gender for dubious benefits. It’s not really a problem.
Intense rehabilitation for the vast majority. Indefinite psychiatric care for those who cannot be rehabilitated.
Some fucking moron making a stupid claim is not establishing anything other than some people are idiots.
What were you attempting to ask?