A federal appellate court ruled last week that Oregon may house trans women inmates in men’s prisons, overturning a lower court’s ruling earlier this year.

The three-judge panel of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals consisted exclusively of Donald Trump appointees. They voted unanimously to overturn an April ruling from U.S. Magistrate Judge Mark D. Clarke ordering the Oregon Department of Corrections to assume that trans women prisoners should be housed in women’s prisons, and then assess individual cases to confirm that placement, not the other way around.

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    A woman without a functional penis can rape a woman as well

    How common is that, compared to dick&balls raping vagina?

    They do not have a separate prison. So which prison do they go to?

    Lacking a special intersex prison, it’d be decided on a case by case basis, I don’t know what you want of me.

    Also, don’t expect to have people reread your shit once you edit them. Take the time to make a coherent argument the first time or respond with a new post.

    Noted

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      How common is that, compared to dick&balls raping vagina?

      Sexual assault is reported at higher rates in women’s prison when compared to mens.

      it’d be decided on a case by case basis, I don’t know what you want of me.

      By what criteria would the courts determine this on a case by case basis?

      I’m trying to get you to realize how silly your entire premise is, and how it is neither practical nor realistic. Transphobes always believe their prejudice to be practical, but when you actually ask practical questions their beliefs fail to reflect reality.

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        By what criteria would the courts determine this on a case by case basis?

        I have no idea. What do they do now?

        how silly your entire premise is

        So what’s your proposal, desegregate prisons?

        Sexual assault is reported at higher rates in women’s prison when compared to mens.

        That’s not what I asked though, is it? And what % of that is dick&balls “women” raping women? If anything, that adds to my point - segregate dick&balls from non-dick&balls.

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          I have no idea. What do they do now?

          They go by their self assigned gender.

          So what’s your proposal, desegregate prisons?

          My personal opinion would be prison abolition for any non violent crime. My pragmatic view would to go by gender.

          That’s not what I asked though, is it?

          I gave you answer more specific to the scenario? Your question has no pertinent application to people being held in detention.

          what % of that is dick&balls “women” raping women?

          What?

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            They go by their self assigned gender.

            So essentially free-for-all? Terrific.

            My personal opinion would be prison abolition for any non violent crime

            What about violent crimes?

            My pragmatic view would to go by gender

            We’ve already established that gender is about as relevant as hair color.

            What?

            dick&balls “women” aka persons with dick&balls who claim they are women

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              So essentially free-for-all? Terrific.

              I know that you may be fooled, but for most people it’s pretty easy to determine if someone has changed their gender for dubious benefits. It’s not really a problem.

              What about violent crimes?

              Intense rehabilitation for the vast majority. Indefinite psychiatric care for those who cannot be rehabilitated.

              We’ve already established that gender is about as relevant as hair color.

              Some fucking moron making a stupid claim is not establishing anything other than some people are idiots.

              “women” aka persons with dick&balls who claim they are women

              What were you attempting to ask?

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                for most people it’s pretty easy to determine if someone has changed their gender for dubious benefits

                Who is in charge of making that determination?

                Intense rehabilitation for the vast majority. Indefinite psychiatric care for those who cannot be rehabilitated.

                Full agreement here.

                Some fucking moron making a stupid claim is not establishing anything other than some people are idiots.

                When one can change it on the fly, depending on feelings with zero objectivity, it’s irrelevant. Side question, why are you so insistent on name-calling?

                What were you attempting to ask?

                How common is a woman without a functional penis raping a natural woman, compared to dick&balls owner raping vagina owner?

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                  Who is in charge of making that determination?

                  If you worked to improve your reading comprehension, I’m sure you could eventually work that out yourself.

                  depending on feelings with zero objectivity, it’s irrelevant.

                  There are plenty of objective ways to confirm gender identity. They do it in sports all the time.

                  why are you so insistent on name-calling?

                  You are a terrible human being, it’s fun to call you a little icel wannabe cuck. See, what I’m implying is that you would love to be a cuck, but are unable too because you can’t find a girl who would fuck you in the first place. See it’s fun!

                  How common is a woman without a functional penis raping a natural woman, compared to dick&balls owner raping vagina owner?

                  Not going to waste my time answering something you cannot spend the effort to properly ask. That string of words looks like a LLM was fed nothing but the worst of 4chan.

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                    If you worked to improve your reading comprehension, I’m sure you could eventually work that out yourself.

                    “Most people” is not a good answer when incarceration is involved.

                    There are plenty of objective ways to confirm gender identity. They do it in sports all the time.

                    Do tell.

                    You are a terrible human being, it’s fun to call you a little icel wannabe cuck. See, what I’m implying is that you would love to be a cuck, but are unable too because you can’t find a girl who would fuck you in the first place. See it’s fun!

                    Have fun I guess, I’m secure enough that I don’t really care, just curious.

                    Not going to waste my time answering something you cannot spend the effort to properly ask. That string of words looks like a LLM was fed nothing but the worst of 4chan.

                    Are you seriously unable to parse the query? It’s not that complicated. Try reading one word at a time.