• AmyAye@nord.pub
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    12 hours ago

    I just wish people would stop acting like I am a “Doomer” over this shit.

    Every year its record high summers and winters, tnado alley is moving, rain patterns are all fucked up, I am not even a professional and I can tell the extreme weather shifts from climate change are happening.

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      1 hour ago

      People aren’t good at long term thinking. They have a hard time conceptualizing that actions now affect the entire following century. Our actions build on each other a little at a time, and keep adding up to worse

      It urgent not because of what’s happening now, but what will continue to get worse. It’s urgent because we’re locking in climate change now

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        3 hours ago

        I mean, maybe, except we are way way way past the point where we can fix this. Very large numbers of humans, will die, likely in the next 20 years. From famine and fighting caused by mass migration from now unlivable areas.

        Given our response level when we had time and resources and somewhat willing to work governments, vs now, its going to be a very large percentage, probably 100% within 40-50 years as it spirals and gets worse more and more rapidly.

        People got all pissy during COVID when things became hard to get from shipping delays and they couldn’t go out to eat. Wait until things become hard to get because those things can no longer be manufactured and they can’t go out to eat because there is no food.

        But hey, enough Doomer talk. Fidja see, Elon Musk isna Trillionaire! Everything is booming! MONEY!

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          54 minutes ago

          we are way way way past the point where we can fix this

          While it’s hard to make things better, it’s easy to make things worse. It can always get worse and giving up means it will

          It’s more important than ever to advocate for change. To do what you can, both personally and with whatever influence you have, either in your social circle or through your consumer practices, or voting.

          As a citizen of the US, we seem to be the main villain here. We are making some progress, maybe more than you’d think, but the denial, the politics, the spite and racism means we’re not getting as much done as we need to. A year ago we had corporations on board, we had half the stars on board, we had many major cities on board. Then we got run over by a giant coal rolling monument to excess that modern pickups are. Time to get up, dust ourselves off, and get things moving again

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          57 minutes ago

          You are really misreading what Im saying. Im not saying things should go on as usual. Im saying we need to fight to salvage what we can.

          Your last paragraph is especially misrepresenting my point.

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      11 hours ago

      I’ve tried having this same conversation with my mum multiple times and she keeps saying that there has been no meaningful increase in temperatures in her lifetime and I’m just thinking what are you talking about?! I just don’t understand what they stand to lose by admitting that humans have demonstrably increased the global temperatures.

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        I think it’s sunk cost. It’s too late for them to admit that they were wrong because now it’s too late to do anything. And admitting they were wrong this whole time would mean that there was time to do something and they squandered it to the detriment of not only their own descendants, but for literally every human on the planet.

        Their ego will not allow it.

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          3 hours ago

          Europe somewhere? Like apparently Europe has California wildfires everywhere now. WTF.

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            yeah those “california wildfires” didn’t take over all of the pacific northwest for five months back when i was little. now they do. congratulations, Europe! all that coal and oil all y’all burned for your exclusive benefit, now you get the fires too!

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        4 hours ago

        I just don’t understand what they stand to lose by admitting that humans have demonstrably increased the global temperatures.

        Cars.

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        10 hours ago

        Some level of personal guilt for continuing to exist in a system where fossil fuels are burned on their behalf and we often need to burn them ourselves to live a nornal life because the alternatives may barely exist. For example see DEI bike lanes in the states and the banning of them in ontario in canada thus promoting more car use and discourage/making it more dangerous to bike.

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      10 hours ago

      Kids today just love to complain about the weather. It was hot when i was young too and the rain didn’t stop us. Tornados have always happened outside their traditional range occasionally. If CO2 is to blame then volcanos are the real problem. /s

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      12 hours ago

      My government will do nothing until most politicians dies in not one but multiple tornadoes hitting the parliament… in the same year…

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      Remember that the fossil fuel industry knew what was going to happen in the 1970s and lied to governments around the world to ensure our future of maximal fossil fuel burning and damn the consequences came to pass.

      We have words for people who betray their country, we have words for people who betray their family, we even have words for people who betray the firm they work for every day, but we have no words for people who betray their entire species.