The suspected hackers have breached US water infrastucture before – and CISA has just warned their targets are expanding.
In at least one city, the attack temporarily knocked a municipal well and water treatment plant offline, according to local media outlet MPRNews.
Other communities reported the attacks disrupted communications and automated operations, forcing staff to switch to manual workarounds while systems were restored, the news outlet said.
It’s almost by design for this shit to happen. You can update everything and still get pwned by an off the shelf router that reached end of service the moment you bought it, leaving security holes unpatched.
And why are water systems online in the first place?
SCADA control is very important in a modern system, and the ability monitor and control is absolutely required.
Has nothing to do with the internet though.
And if you must, you could do reporting via internet but no control.
There is still no reason for it to be on the internet.
And why do I have the feeling a vendor got involved with pitching the internet…
Dude I was putting industrial control systems behind firewalls 25 years ago, for exactly this very scenario. Which had not happened yet, but even then it was completely obvious to every network engineer that this would happen eventually.
Remotely accessible? Of course. Directly on the public internet with default credentials? Idiots.
Yes,
Guess what you are they mean by “connected to the internet”
Accessible through a secure portal on the internet, totally ok
Just blasting into the internet with no firewall or proper security? Effing idiotic.
Are we finally going to take SCADA security seriously now or will it take more of these events?
But remote access to PLCs is so convenient!
Dear Iran, pick a state that voted for Trump
To be honest, the best targets (from Irans point of view) are NOT states that are heavily in support of Trump.
If your goal is to cause resistance and unrest in the population it is best to target the material conditions of the regions with high density populations. This is going to be “blue” no matter what state is targeted.
But, of course this is not reasonable in reality either. The targets are going to be those of opportunity. ANY security that can be exploited.
Iran is having bridges and civilian infrastructure destroyed by a country that attacked them in aggression. OUR country did that (if you’re American). You’re not out in the street everyday demanding it stop. You didn’t stop paying rent demanding it stop. You didn’t go on strike demanding it stop.
So, until Americans actually feel some consequences for their inaction, you’re not special because you didn’t vote for Trump. You’re just as inactive against this war as a Trump voter that heard him say “no new wars” and nothing else. He’s president. Pointing to the past saying you didn’t want it does nothing. WHAT DO YOU DO NOW? Because if it was your schools and bridges I hope you wouldn’t just stop at blaming Trump supporters.
We’d all be protesting, striking, and refusing to pay rent if we had our schools getting bombed because of our government. But we don’t when the victims aren’t Americans. We pretend we’re not responsible and keep enjoying our comfortable lives while saying “I didn’t vote for this” as a reason to remain inactive.
They’re effectively accomplishing Trump’s goals for him. Trump hates the blue states as much as Iran hates the United States.
I think you underestimate how much Trump absolutely despises red states as well. He just hates poor people. He says shit his base will like. But have you seen the absolute destruction to Texas, Georgia, etc with datacenters? He doesn’t fucking care. The only group he gives material benefits to are the ICE agents terrorizing cities.
In fact, for Trump, ICE agents are just more poor people to rob.
It’s things like this that confirm to me that Trump and most of his administration are not true ideological fascist. Ideological fascist would be sure to maintain some level of support from their ground troops. Things like this show me that there are some ideological fascist within the admin; but, Trump himself, is entirely focused on things that benefit him directly. Trump is enjoying stealing billions. If doing fascist shit helps him do that (and it does) he will. If it actually causes him some personal sacrifice he is not going to do that to obtain some “fascist objectives”. It’s why he doesn’t care if ICE is successful as long as it’s implementation is exploitable for his own personal profit.
It’s why when people treat him like Hitler it’s not quite fair. Hitler had real ideology he wanted to implement and was not only guided by increasing his wealth. Trump uses ideology and propaganda specifically to benefit himself. He is a “crypto fascist” that has built the foundations for an ideological fascist to take power in.
It limits this rise in fascism to an extent that a true ideological fascist wouldn’t. It’s also worrying to imagine a real ideological fascist and white supremacist like Tucker Carlson or a puppet fascist like JD Vance being in power. They would be smart enough to fill the pockets of their brown shirts.
We’d all be protesting, striking, and refusing to pay rent if we had our schools getting bombed because of our government.
would we? also, “protesting, striking, and refusing to pay rent” is not the appropriate response to someone trying to murder you.
Which is it then? Do we organize in nonviolent ways? Do we organize in violent ways? Or would Americans continue to do nothing if their schools were being bombed?
There is a limit for every person. That was my point. Americans have their limit too; it’s just not genocide in Gaza or bombing civilians in Iran.
The nonviolent wing marches and makes demands and does public facing stuff. The people prepared to be violent provide security, community defense, and the implicit threat of force if peaceful demands are not met. They’re not opposed, they should work together.
I agree. I may have misunderstood your first comment. Material acts like rent strikes and labor strikes are important in the “peaceful” part of resistance.
I forgot about the same principle I just explained xD
Excellently stated. Than you for sharing this.
Imagine if
SatanyahooBibi the ButcherBeelzebibi and the Zionists didn’t convince the pedophile to start this unwinnable war.EDIT: Someone didn’t really like Satanyahoo.
EDIT 2: The aforementioned individual had an even better recommendation and I was immediately persuaded to make a second edit. Thank you.
You really gotta workshop that nickname
Understood, friend. I apologize for that. Though I don’t think you or I need to work on any other aliases for that war criminal. There appear to be an abundance of others available online.
For instance, even a simple search on the Internet yields many other “nicknames” to appropriately describe this man. I didn’t even need to workshop “Satanyahoo”! It’s available on this page presently - and listed there as a variant of “Satanyahu”:
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Satanyahu
For the sake of convenience, the full list as found from that page is provided below:
- Satanyahu
- Satanyahoo
- Bibi the Butcher
- Netanyahoo
- Satan Hussein
Another commenter that replied to you came up with one that I haven’t heard of before:
- Beelzebibi
That’s an excellent one too!
Nonetheless, I switched the one I chose in my original comment to refer to him as Bibi the Butcher. I hope this one’s ok. I’m open to suggestions!
Thank you and be well.
Y’know, one could argue that was more effort than my relatively silly comment deserved. You really put in the work and for that I salute you. Truly a top-shelf comment.
I do think most of the nicknames there are pretty lame, to be honest. Satan Hussein doesn’t even really make sense. Bibi the Butcher is almost more of a pejorative title than a nickname, and I prefer that in general. This is a very specific reference but, in the Expanse novels and tv series, calling Fred Johnson ‘The Butcher of Anderson Station’ feels more impactful to me than calling him Bled Toxin would. I think when someone refers to Trump as the ‘Orange [bad thing]’, for example, the intention is to make the criticism hit harder but it usually has the opposite effect on me. That is purely personal preference though. Feel free to nickname to your heart’s content if that’s your preference!
Beelzebibi is my favourite, personally. It’s both pejorative and funny. It’s also really fun to say out loud. Great stuff.
Dear fellow Lemmy-er: that was brilliant! I appreciate your insightful views and I decided to immediately make a second edit as per your brilliant suggestion. Moving forward, I’ll be using Beelzebibi!
Please accept my up-vote and have a good day. Thanks so much!
Beelzebibi?
Nice! I like this one too! Thank you.
Now how am I supposed to purify myself in the waters of lake minnetonka??
The lake hasn’t gone anywhere
