Can’t you just disable sleep on close? Fuckin noobs

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    Anyone with half a working brain in computer tech would know that, if you really need something to be kept on, but checked regularly, it becomes a fucking server that you connect to using different equipment. But that’s too high tech for vibe-whatevers.

    “I think people think I’m whatever the equivalent of an iPad kid is for a middle-aged woman,” one AI user said.

    Ackshually, we think you’re an absolute fucking idiot.

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      This is the first setting I changed on every laptop I ever owned. So often I had stuff running in the background and didn’t want it to sleep. Plus, windows had that stupid fucking sleep bug, so usually I’d use hibernate anyways.

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        I disabled sleep-on-close for my server laptop (I use NixOS btw), although I do prefer to keep it on for my personal laptop.

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    People who can’t figure out their power settings are shipping software. We’re so fucked.

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      Considering that they are using pseudo intelligence* write the code I think the power settings is the least of our concerns.

      *PI should replace AI as it is a more accurate title

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      It’s fucking surreal watching these people rise to high positions in tech companies trying to sell the idea that they can replace physicians with their “product”. Have fun with that mate.

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        They will. It’s cheaper. People will die. Congress will take money from the lobbyists and say there’s nothing they can do.

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        Its a good thing the tech bros are so inept, our demise will be slowed somewhat

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      I mean… I’m almost glad they haven’t figured out the power settings. Imagine if they were all running around with the lids closed and the laptops stuffed into a backpack? It would be a fire waiting to happen.

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            Yes, but our gear should have sensors that know when thermal transfer is sustainably going to impact the batteries.

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              They do, but It’s sort of like what happens when you take a hot steak off the pan. The extrernal heat source is removed, but the steak has enough internal heat to continue cooking for a bit while it rests. Your laptop might shut down, but the whole thing being in a backpack would act as an insulator and allow it to continue heating.

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              yes you are right and everyone else is a little uneducated for thinking this could actually be a fire risk

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                You sound fun at parties. Circular firing squad, much?

                Fwiw, several generations of Windows notebooks have suffered from nasty sleep bugs where they wake themselves up from sleep, and drain their batteries while clamshelled in a book bag. Used to happen with my work Dells almost monthly. Microsoft’s announced win11 fix for it is one of the loudest and most venerated I’ve heard, in living memory.

                Best I ever got out of the deal was a spicy pillow, no breach, and I’ve been unable to find any articles about any rash of laptop explosions which would have had very high visibility.

                It sounds like you have also been as lucky as I have. May we all hope to escape the fires, a little longer.

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                  Right, and this is just waking to run updates or whatever. Imagine what running a local LLM in the same conditions might do.

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                kek. okay tell that to all the electric vehicle owners who’ve burned to death in random car fires cause by their batteries igniting themselves. also maybe educate yourself a little and read the underwriters lab article I posted.

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      I’ve definitely had windows straight up ignore the power settings before. Granted that was years ago, it’s probably only gotten worse

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        It does weird things with some but I’ve never seen “lid closed down action” bug. Then again I’m not using laptops that much

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    I like how they think they’re somehow special for walking around with their laptops open. Business idiots have been doing this forever. It isn’t some new “AI coder” thing. Jane from fucking accounting does this on the way to her meetings too you morons.

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    I gotta hide this article. His punchable face on my feed is insufferable.

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    This was one of the cringiest articles I have ever read.

    There is no way this happened lmao.

    I lost it at “sorry, I’m using Claude”.

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    "Can’t you just disable sleep on close? " You really think they have technical competence for such?

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    I’m not sure if I see a reason not to disable sleep on lid close. If you have to carry it around lid open so that it doesn’t sleep, you clearly have a case for wanting to keep the laptop running with lid closed.

    If it’s a “look at me, I’m doing things”, it’s a whole different story.

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    You’re giving them too much credit. They’re afraid their chatbot will suffocate if they close those lid all the way.

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    It’s easy to lose track of time with these tools, he told Business Insider. Soon enough, the girls’ practice has ended, and the parents flood into the changing room. He joins them — with his laptop ajar, so that the AI agent can keep running.

    “I have to put it up on a shelf,” he said. “I’m untying my girls’ skates while looking back like: Is it done?”

    I just feel bad for these poor kids. You can’t leave your goddamn Claude at home while you take your kids to the rink?

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        Ohoho, I know exactly how to burn a silly amount of tokens if I want to, which is why that metric is absolutely garbage - arguably worse than ranking developer performance by SLOC committed.

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            Part of the scoring at my company is how many generated lines of code you accept.

            Going back to the beginning of the year, I think I’m up to 6

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              Have it write all of your logging code for you, it may be inaccurate but it is the least damaging place to take the hit as you can just manually search in the source code for where the print was from. They always do something stupid and non uniform making most statements traceable indirectly.

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                  If you fully inform them on the situation, they will be cool with it. We are all in this shit together, well until everything falls apart. Add a [<linenumber>] to the prefix on each statement, who the fuck cares. It was the LLM that did it, not you and you were forced to use it.

                • Spraynard Kruger@lemmy.world
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                  Happened to a friend of mine at his company. It seems the company wanted to justify their subscription costs.

                  I’m sure if you are corpo-brained (brain dead) enough it makes sense. AI = magic efficiency machine, therefore an employee that uses more tokens = more efficient worker. Of course, in practice most competent people affected by this policy at his company started burning tokens with wild goose chases when they needed to increase that metric.

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          /model opus

          write a script that RO dumps my production datastores 1gb at a time

          use this script and review all my production data and look for cost savings.

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      or you can literally just do what is it? something+tab? and it just goes to town without the need for you to confirm anything.

      I mean it’s gonna turn out slop that won’t scale and be full of exploits anyways regardless if you auto confirm or not. then just rig it up to ping your phone when it’s done…oh who am I kidding these dudes wouldn’t know how to do that.

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        then just rig it up to ping your phone when it’s done…oh who am I kidding these dudes wouldn’t know how to do that.

        Fucking. Exactly. I just made a long comment about how this article feels like they’re talking to non-tech-savvy people who are pretending to be tech-savvy because they talk to a fucking AI.

        Like this dumbfuck kid who “has to keep shipping software” as if that means he’s not shipping it riddled with bugs and security issues since his AI makes the spaghetti code and he just says “I’m sure this is ready for production.”

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          I used to use a push notification app and a small python script for that.

          I would “&& notify_me ‘message’ “ and get a notification on my watch when whatever script I was running completed

          I judge this wave of people in tech pretty harshly.

          Just a bunch of boring script kiddies

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            I couldn’t even find any evidence in the article or photos that anyone interviewed was running a local LLM, which would at least justify worrying about temps if your keyboard acts as your air intake (which apparently is relatively common now).

            Just a bunch of narcissists wanting an excuse to have people ask them about what they’re doing, ogle what they’re doing, and so they can pretend they’re…

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              Or use their operating system. Who doesn’t know you can have it stay on when you shut the lid if you want?

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            Even easier. For a lot of carriers you can send an email to the phone number and it’ll come up as a text.

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      I mean this is why I don’t mind using AI, it gives me the time to focus on the people around me.

      Also I see it as a sign of a lack of support and isolation in the workplace. Like “I need help, I don’t have anyone to turn to cause everyone is fired so this is my only support” and the anxiety that brings.

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        I’ve been suffering from too short an attention span. I keep ending up. scrolling on my phone while waiting for ai to spew its slop, and have been caught too many times

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          Yeah I just swap to the next project. And if all of those are hydrated I go to my hobby projects, and yeah those I don’t use agents for so I just stay there for a while after that lmao

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    What really worries me about this article is this very dystopian idea that you’re supposed to be “working” 24/7, no breaks ever.
    Even when you’re out with your kids, why are you present in the moment instead of working? Open your laptop, go work.

    Wasn’t all the marketing abour the “AI Future” talking about getting things done faster?
    When did that turn into “Work 24/7 so you don’t waste your hourly token limit”? WTF?

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      Also,

      The 15-year-old from Bentonville, Arkansas, is a 10th grader who’s building a startup with his 24-year-old cousin. He uses Codex, Claude Code, and OpenCode (paid for with seed money from his parents).

      Lul. Lmao. ROFL even.

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        Yesterday on my way home there was a lemonade stand, 6 boys making great value lemonade for $2 a glass. Two of the kids were turning poorly made signs it was so wholesome if I had $2 on me I’d of stopped just to support them.

        Sometimes kids should just start a business instead of a startup. Less disappointment and brainrot

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      I can’t remember the specifics of it, but I vaugely remember someone pointing out that back in the 70s people assumed that rising productivity meant they’d have to work less. That if the work of a week in 1970 would be the work of three days in 2020, that they’d simply only work those three days. Even if I’m misremembering what was said, I feel like it’s clear to see that rising productivity doesn’t mean we’re going to work any less. Capitalism will just keep squeezing until nothing is left.

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        Yeah futurists said the same shit about email and smartphones, etc. These were “time saving” productivity tools that would help us all enjoy a better work-life balance. Instead you end up with workers essentially on call 24x7x365.

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        That was the Jetson’s storyline: George goes to work 3 days a week, 2 hours a day, to sit at a desk and press one button.

        Notice that storyline didn’t get repeated much.

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          Also made enough for a nice floating house, a flying car, and a robot maid.

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              Remote work still isnt fully accepted even in the future.

              My pet theory is that the jetsons and the Flintstones are in universe, on the same planet, in the same time period. One lives in the clouds, the other on the ground. Where do you think all the raw materials come from? Dinosaur operated quarries

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                Yeah everyone on the ground making due with bioengineered animals that look like dinosaurs, and no one can afford shoes but it’s ok because everyone has been bioengineered to run really fast and have impervious feet.

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      on top of that, there is no way they are working on anything so important that can’t take an hour away or whatever. these dopes could also configure yolo mode if they just need to sit there and click “accept” to changes…

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    Brace yourselves for a windows update that will override the settings with giant bubble buttons on how to turn off sleep mode…

    So relieved I’m fully Linux now

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        TBF, that is actually something claude would be fine at walking them through, Tailscale would be 15 minutes