• santa@sh.itjust.works
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    4 days ago

    Australia already has new gun laws from the attack in December. We shall eat our tails with bbq sauce!

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      4 days ago

      Because gun control laws are what you need when you’re on the verge of the fascists fully taking over?

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        4 days ago

        Well, that theory isnt proving very accurate in the US…

        Unless the NRA nuts are waiting, like a surprise party sort of thing… that non-scenario would be fun!

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            3 days ago

            Well… no. Your gun kink has proven to be exactly as effective as our “nothing”.

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              3 days ago

              Except for all the historical instances where armed populations have defended themselves from states.

              Do you honestly think the Zapatistas or Syrian Kurds would be better off if they did not have guns to defend their homes? What about the Black Panthers using weapons to secure their communities?

              Why anyone in their right mind would want to disarm themselves to be entirely at the mercy of the state is beyond me, especially in a political climate such as America today where that very state is actively intending harm and death to a large part of its population and has historically.

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                Not sure using two examples of never ending civil war is quite the slam dunk argument you think it is mate but you do you.

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                  And what’s your alternative, no independence war and they just lose? Is that really the argument you think it is?

                  Having a chance to fight is better than no chance. The fact that they’ve been able to fight for decades shows that weapons can defend you.

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                    If you think civilians stand a chance against the largest most powerful military the world has ever seen i have a bridge to Hawaii to sell you.

                    Most Americans can’t even pass the minimum for military training yet some how you think a bunch of overweight chain smokers with Walmart rifles is going to “stand a chance”.

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              Mate, I’m armed and in Australia. That shitshow can easily happen here. It was only a few decades ago that ‘poofter bashing’ was normalised and assaulting minorities even more common place, things can go backwards and get worse.

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                Perhaps and if so, having a gun probably won’t help much. That said, if it gets to that point I’ll have no issues getting one.

                I remember those days well. Being armed didn’t help Queenslanders if Joh wanted to turn his wrath on them. What did was unity and watching each others backs. Having safe places

                The key to doing well in that situation is looking after each other.