• Doomsider@lemmy.world
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        11 months ago

        Military action is how the Nazi military was defeated. Nazism was never defeated though. You must understand the US was very pro-Nazi before WWII. Wealthy private individuals from the US helped to find the Nazi party.

        Later on, after the Nazi rose to power these same US individuals lobbied the governments of Europe and the US not to take the Jews in. The Nazi party originally wanted to expel all the Jews. This lead to the final solution and the murder of millions.

        So it is more complex than guns kill Nazi. We were not the good guys in all this. I also think this has little to do with gun proliferation in the US and the lack of regulation causing untold suffering.

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        11 months ago

        Been working out so well with around 50k Americans dying every year needlessly. We are also clocking in at around one thousand child deaths every year. Japan had zero child deaths from guns this year, and the last, and the last, ad nauseam.

        I know you gun nutters love your defense fantasies, but arming the gays isn’t going to solve any problems and will result in more dead people

        We already have more guns than people. How many moar guns until we are finally safe!?

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          11 months ago

          But we’re not talking specifically about protecting children here, I’d agree with you that less guns are better to those ends. For fighting fascism though? It took a lot of gun deaths to unseat Hitler and Mussolini

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            11 months ago

            Sure in a hypothetical alternate reality where the only way to defeat evil is to shoot it. Unfortunately we live in the real world and it just means more dead people.

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              11 months ago

              Maybe I’m feeling cornered, vulnerable, angry, as is often the case with these things. But how do you suggest we protect ourselves and our allies from an evil that strengthens itself off of your sickness, your hunger, your homelessness, and has absolutely no qualms about meeting you with violence and coming up with an excuse later?

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                11 months ago

                I would not suggest purchasing a gun if you are feeling cornered, vulnerable, and angry. Fear is the mind killer.

                I would suggest reaching out to others, talking, getting political, and organizing.

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                    11 months ago

                    Why stop there, surely there is something worse. Perhaps a personal nuclear weapon. Nothing too big of course, but just big enough to let’s say make everyone regret having messed with you.

                    Think what a civil society would develop if everyone had one of these. On a side note, I am taking investments on a hot new uranium mine prospect.