• it_depends_man@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Doing engineering is more like an any% run to do something that eventually, even just statistically, hurts people.

    So. Stop enabling us, scientists :P

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      3 days ago

      Lots of people are better off for science, it’s the capitalists that ask us to wield it against others

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          Socio-economic models have to do with pretty much everything that happens in a society. They define the preferred end goal of most actions. In feudalism it would be to better expand and defend the territory of your liege, for example.

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            What I meant is that wielding new science and technology against people is in no way unique to capitalism. Every system we’ve ever tried has done that at one point.

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              No one said it’s unique to that particular system. As I said feudalism would do the same for different reasons

              But that doesn’t mean it’s impossible to have a system that disincentivises harming others and even if it’s implemented it doesn’t mean no one will be harmed.

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                  He did not say it’s the only system where it happens

                  It seems he was just saying that in the current socio-economic model for most of the planet the elite of that system (the “capitalists”) push for that behaviour, not that it wouldn’t happen under any other

                  If I say I get wet when it’s raining outside, I’m not implying I can’t get wet during a sunny day (I might just have bad luck and someone dumps water out of a window)

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      This is part of the reason I moved to CA. As an engineer I’m always going to have some kind of environmental impact, and I think a direct initiative is necessary for the public to consent.

      This comment is known to the state of California to cause birth defects.