DENVER (AP) — A teenager suspected in a shooting attack at a suburban Denver high school that left two students in critical condition appeared fascinated with previous mass shootings including Columbine and expressed neo-Nazi views online, according to experts.
Since December, Desmond Holly, 16, had been active on an online forum where users watch videos of killings and violence, mixed in with content on white supremacism and antisemitism, the Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism said in a report.
Holly shot himself following Wednesday’s shooting at Evergreen High School in Jefferson County. He died of his injuries. It is still unclear how he selected his victims. The county was also the scene of the 1999 Columbine High School massacre that killed 14 people.
Holly’s TikTok accounts contained white supremacist symbols, the ADL said, and the name of his most recent account included a reference to a popular white supremacist slogan. The account was unavailable Friday. TikTok said accounts associated with Holly had been banned.
Holly’s family could not be reached. The Associated Press left a message at a telephone number associated with the house that police searched after the shooting.
Oh, a neo-nazi again? Huh, when will the radical left stop doing this?
I’ve had people legit try to pull the “NaZiS wErE aChUaLlY sOcIaLiSt” on me before
Yes and the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea and the Democratic Republic of Congo are vigorously participative democracies too.
Yes … the national socialist party were socialists. They implemented a great deal of social welfare programs and seized the means to production in various industries during their reign. They were very vocal about being anti-capitalist and anti-communist, both of which they viewed as Jewish systems and sought a third way that was clearly a spin off of socialism. This has been well documented from various speeches, articles, and books that were produced by the Nazis at the time; and, most importantly, their actions. Hitler was even in a Russian backed communist group at one point.
The easiest way to think of the Nazi ideology is to take communism, drop the class warfare and insert racial warfare and ethno supremacy(and add in a bunch of ancient Norse, German, and Greek/Roman mythology).
Where did you get the impression that they weren’t socialists?
Nazis did not have an ideology. They were a grievance movement that utilized a common folk scapegoat (Jewish and Roma migrants) to unify the fractured German political landscape in the Weimar Republic era.
It was a populist demogogue movement that cynically and callously used terminology that was common and popular among poor working class people in order to trick them into believing that their movement was about anything other than hatred, extermination, and pilfering public coffers. The ‘Socialist’ part of their name was a cynical play to attract those who were active in Communist organizing in the early 1900s.
There was no collective ownership in Nazi Germany. The government owned much of everything, and the only parties that benefited from that ownership were the individual cronies that Hitler personally feted. Nazi Germany was socialist in the way that Vladimir Putin’s Russian Federation is a Communist state — IN NAME ONLY.
Just because you found an easy way to explain Nazis to yourself, doesn’t mean it’s correct.
What is the correct way to define the Nazi ideology?
It’s Fascism. Everything else is just fluff.
Found one in the wild. Very cool.
Yeah, I’m here. Please engage with the points I made earlier. Evidence and motives are important to get right when looking back at history so that we don’t keep making the same mistakes again and again, especially the ones with truly dire consequences.
I’m defining socialism as the state controlling the means of production. In what way did the National Socialists not represent socialism?
Oh boy, I’ll leave you with this https://www.britannica.com/story/were-the-nazis-socialists
I appreciate the link to the article, but that article did not mention any of the stated motives that came directly from the mouths of the Nazi leadership, misrepresented what happened to the unions, and completely ignored the various socialist programs that were enacted once the Nazis got power. Again, the Nazis stated that they wanted to seize the means of production and then seized the means of production once in power. What evidence do you have to say otherwise?
You believe the motives from the mouths of the nazi leaders? Reputable source of what happened to the unions? Socialist programs for who the nazis stole businesses from Jewish folks. I’ve show you evidence but you don’t care for it.
Listening to what someone says is the first step in understanding their motives. That’s not to say that you should just believe them off hand, but it is a useful data point. Disregarding that information would be an incredible disservice to your understanding of what was going on.
The unions got rolled up into the state. Many will say the unions got dissolved, which is kind of true, but misses the part where the state took control of them. The Decree of the Reich Government (May 19, 1933) makes this evident, the “Act on the Order of National Labor” (January 20, 1934) as well, the newspaper the Völkischer Beobachter, ran headlines on May 2 and 3, 1933, announcing the “coordination of the trade unions” and their incorporation into the new Nazi-led structure, and Richard J. Evans “The Coming of the Third Reich” takes about all this in depth.
You’re right, I don’t care for your evidence. The provided article was lazy and inaccurate.