• OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    Remember when the Obama administration tried to ease off this silly non-sense with Cuba. That’s how you know this issue is living inside of Trump’s head.

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      That’s what showed us how powerful the Cuban-American caucus has become

      Obama tried to normalize relations, Florida has been red ever since

      Cuban-Americans want Cuba to collapse. It’s pretty evil

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        So we should kill just under 4 million civilians then leave the country to warlords like we did in Iraq? Cuba is far from perfect but it doesn’t go around starting wars and is a tiny country. What’s with the obsession with it?

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    I was in Cuba again this year. People there are really hurting. The streets of Havana are the emptiest of tourists I’ve ever seen them, yet the Paseo del Prado is alive with socialising Cubans every single night, persevering in the face of the soulless, shameless, compassionless behemoth next door.

    May the Cuban people prevail regardless of the governments who use them as pawns.

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    With Trump’s military, I would be hesitant to invade a deserted island at this point. We might lose.

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      The conquest of Cuba has been a goal of American nationalists for over a hundred years. The political excuses concocted during the cold war directly stemmed from Cubas economic domination by the American mainland and the resulting popular revolution in response to the looting of the country. Since Cuba left the American sphere of influence, conservatives have turned hatred of Cuba into an identity issue and base a lot of their propaganda on half truths about Cuba and Venezuela. Domination over the Americas is considered critical by American nationalists who view their neighbors as objects to be controlled and looted.

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        You also immediately lose the Cuban-American vote if you go soft on Cuba. Which means you lose Florida.

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      Because a few big landowners and the mafia got kicked out of Cuba in 1959 and they’ve paying off politicians to steal it back ever since.

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      1. Marco rubio is secretary of state and he represents a large well funded community of cuban, and Venezuelan, expats who want to see the governments of their homeland toppled. They “succeeded” in Venezuela, now they’re moving on to cuba

      2. Trump wants his name in the history books for doing what no other president “had the balls to do” and conquering cuba.

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    8 hours ago

    I guess the new Congress is just going to need to defund the executive branch.

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    The Cuban Embassy in Washington, D.C., estimated on Thursday that the cost of the U.S. blockade to Cuba between March 2025 and February 2026 amounted to $8 billion.

    Earlier this month, the Treasury Department imposed further sanctions on Cuban oil tankers and shipping companies and threatened to target any international entity or person doing business within its marine or maritime industries as part of a push “to end the Cuban regime’s malign activities, both in Cuba and across our hemisphere.”

    Cuba’s Embassy in Washington, D.C., said these steps “deepen an energy siege that already leaves hospitals without reliable power and families facing blackouts. The blockade is not targeted at a government. It is collective punishment that hits ordinary people every day.”

  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    If incoming Democrats don’t stop this, then they never deserve to be voted for ever again

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      Careful. There is a movement right now to begin blaming democrats for everything even though MAGA still has its disgusting grip on decision making.

      This article is about Trump threatening to use his executive powers. He is going to try to do things neither houses are used to seeing a president do. He is going to challenge precedent and rules as he already has. Yet you are already blaming democrats.

      I agree though that the democrats are in a delicate position where they have to root the centrists out of the party. But thats not what this article is about.

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        I get the worry here, but that is why we voted for them. This is the exact kind of thing I expect them to stop. Demanding the things you actually want from your representatives is not wrong.

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        If you look through my history, you’ll see that I’m well aware and have been actively arguing against those people.

        At some point, however, you have to stop falling for it. They need to fix shit (or at the very least, attempt it earnestly) or else I’m done.

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          You argue against them, then try to make the same exact points as them? That makes no sense.

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        Are you arguing for not holding the Dem party accountable for it’s action or inaction? If there are no legislative blocks even tried, that’s a bad sign. Yes, we need to root out centrists, but we also have to have votes to identify them, and Jeffries and Schumer know that.

        • 🇨🇦GreenBeard🇨🇦@lemmy.ca
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          All the newly elected haven’t even been sworn in yet and won’t be until after New Years. Slow your roll, the R’s are still in charge for a few more months.

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            Sure, happy to wait. But so far Jeffries looks poised to be Speaker, and that’s a bad sign we should be agitating about. I don’t see any reason to take the pressure off and I certainly don’t want to be accussed of being a MAGA plant because I want Democrats to actually deliver on an agenda of real change.

            • 🇨🇦GreenBeard🇨🇦@lemmy.ca
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              We all want Democrats to deliver, and we absolutely should hold their feet to the fire for every failure to do so. It has to be reasonable criticism though. Right now the Dems couldn’t pass a fart. That changes when they actually have the butts in seats to make a difference. Jeffries is a problem, but it looks like Schumer may be replaceable and that’s not nothing.

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                Yes, the comment that started this was, “If Democrats don’t stop this [invasion of Cuba], they should never run for anything again.” (or something, the comment’s behind this pop up editting window.

                I think the problem with that criticism isn’t that it is criticism. It’s obviously phrased as an IF-THEN thing… my problem with it is it’s punishing Democrats for not effectively stopping an authoritarian president on a power congress has spent 50 years abdicating to the executive… that’s kinda a high bar. My edit would be “If Democrats don’t make significant attempts to stop this …”

                At the same time, I think cutting the military budget to the bone is absolutely the only way they can stop the war in Iran, and you can bet there will emaciated troops on Fox news every day explaining the Democrats are starving them … but it is what people overwhelmingly voted for, so if you want to stop a war, guys, this is the only way to do it, and that’s gonna take some chutzpah.

                • 🇨🇦GreenBeard🇨🇦@lemmy.ca
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                  Fair enough. Although you could also take money from the pentagon, and back-door in a program through a different department to support the soldiers. Maybe send them big checks with “Democrats support the troops” on them.

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      Congress has very limited control over foreign affairs. That’s almost exclusively the purview of the Executive branch