• NotAnOtter@lemmus.org
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    1 day ago

    Honestly 10 years feels like roughly the right amount of time, assuming it’s actually 10 years in prison and not 18 months in a celebrity daycamp.

    People change a lot in prison. Even a year or two. 10 years of prison later he will be a very very very different person, and I don’t think an additional 5+ years would really make much of a difference.

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      5 hours ago

      Yeah, it just also needs to be focusing on rehabilitation during those 10 years. We need to work to ensure the changes are for the better

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      I was reading that in the UK this translates to 5 years before being eligible for parole.

      Which is still a lot for someone who is used to the lifestyle / comfort that Brand had.

      I personally feel like 10 full years in prison isn’t enough, but I’m not a judge. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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        I really just goes to the “Is prison a punishment, a rehabilitation system, or a deterrence”. If someone isn’t rehabilitated after 10 years, then they also won’t be after 20 (IMO). And there are lots of studies that show lengthy sentences don’t really function as a deterrence due to human brains poorly conceptualizing 5 vs 10 vs 15 vs 20 years. At some point it’s just “A long time in jail” and advocating for 10 vs 20 years doesn’t benefit the deterrence aspect. Also, your average violent criminal isn’t thinking “Well I WOULD rape her if it was only 5 years, but since it will be 10, I won’t”

        So then it’s just about punishment. And 10 years in jail is a very very intense punishment. Forced to choose, I would take a LOT of other punishments to not have to spend the next 10 years in jail which, for what it’s worth, often leads to rape from others in the prison.

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          19 hours ago

          So then it’s just about punishment.

          Well, no. It’s mainly about keeping the public safe from his continuing predations.

          Amazing you left that out, when not being free to roam and hurt others is the primary issue survivors care about, and they ALL sleep better when their attacker is behind bars. How is that benefit to society even missing?

          I don’t give two shits what happens to him personally, but from the moment of remand forward, the number of women he will be able to rape drops immediately from unlimited to pretty much zero.

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            17 hours ago

            Yeah that’s a fair point. No point in being a dick about it though.

            I don’t give two shits what happens to him personally

            So, if there was a magic wand that made every rape convict magically incapable of sexual violence, you would be ok with them being set free with no time served?

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              17 hours ago

              That’s a nonsensical equivalence. Saying I don’t care about what happens to Brand personally != not caring about his personal effect on other individuals or society. That I do, and specifically how, I have already made clear.

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          22 hours ago

          From working in some prisons not in America the rwpe isn’t really a thing anymore. There are enough willing people.

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            17 hours ago

            According to this

            The survey of 27,541 state and federal inmates found that some 4.1 percent of adult prison inmates reported being sexually victimized in state and federal prisons during the prior 12 months

            So yeah still quite common. At least in American federal prisons.

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              14 hours ago

              Real numbers are higher for sure than 4.1%, but i actually expected it to be worse if you look at how US prisons are run.

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        1 day ago

        The judge stated a minimum term of 7 years before he can apply for release on licence. He will be on the sex offenders register for life, forever having to report his whereabouts, every time he moves address etc.

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            14 hours ago

            The better question is which countries actually give a sentenced, high-profile rapist without a cent on him and on parole the opportunity to move to them.

    • 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.world
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      I was more meaning that there are other cases coming. But yeah, the sentence seems… sentencing is difficult. Can any time truly make up for violent crimes? But yet there must be serious consequences.