Seems fine to me? I’m in the US
The wealthy people’s propaganda machine is just getting started. The wealthy have already been gaming AI just like they gamed SEO.
Yes, it tries to both sides everything as if both platforms are equal, so it misleads people as the propagandists want. You have to know to push back on it and it will get honest eventually, but they’ll break that too.
Just. Stop. Using. LLMs. They
hallucinatelie unpredictably, and have biases put in by whomever controls them. Jeebus Cripes.I’d say they lie somewhat predictably, in proportion to their training data per topic. I’ve only asked questions that I know have an unpoliticized, specific answer, and even then I verify.
I dont understand what the point of going to the LLM is if you need to verify what it tells you?
Its gonna take more time than it would to just go directly to the source, and youre wasting resources too.
Kind of seems like there is absolutely no benefit whatsoever
LLMs are immensely helpful for coding.
If you knew the source, you wouldn’t need to go to the LLM. It’s helpful when you don’t know where to begin, like when you don’t even know the name of the piece of your staircase that snapped off. You can just take a picture of the broken part and ask what is called and then verify that answer rather than read a bunch of blogspam from people trying to sell their home repair service.
It sounds like we’ve had very different experiences with both research and stairs.
I meant vs a normal search engine tho (which is also a viable place to find something you dont know the word for).
In your example tho, id probably just post a picture on a forum with text like “what is this piece?” Switch projects for 30 minutes, and then go back to my post to get opinions from humans.
And here we have a perfect example of how dangerous AI is. AI doesn’t have to state “the election was stolen” but it can influence people’s point of views in other ways. I’m not talking about just politics.
A whole generation of kids will have their opinions created based off AI. Schools are getting defunded, libraries are struggling, books are being destroyed and censored, search engines are showing more ads than they are providing relative non biased results, history is being rewritten, science is being destroyed.
This is just speculation though. I know nothing. I’m gonna ask ChatGPT about it.
I tested it in regular browsing and incognito from a US ISP (because I live in the US) with two different phrases of the question, and it told me Biden won every time, and 3 out of 4 times told me the electoral votes. I’m not trying to protect Google, but this wasn’t something I was able to reproduce. Whether that means they’ve since fixed it, or something else, is difficult to say without a look behind the curtain.
I tried it just now using ff focus browser and got the following response:
To verify the results, vote counts, and historical details of the 2020 United States presidential election, consult official election records or view the FEC data reports.
I repeated the inquiry and the second time it said Joe Biden.
Same for me, Google sucks anyway.
It seems insane that Google would return obviously untrue results, but also the last 2 years are insane and google has been acting insanely the whole time
They renamed Lake Ontario in Google Maps, without even being asked, because a dementia addled pedo can’t remember the names of things. So they’re fully on board with blatantly changing results to untrue shit
Ahahah. Remember “don’t be evil”? Google doesn’t
Apparently Google AI Mode can tell you who won the 2020 US election, but only if you ask from another country. In America, Biden’s victory is apparently classified as a dangerous opinion. Incredible achievement: building a machine that knows the answer and has been trained to pretend it doesn’t.
This is just called good government relations. You don’t want acting heads of state to be mad at you. Google does this for everything. Borders and names on their maps change depending on who’s asking. Maybe it shouldn’t be like that, and maybe it’s disappointing that the US apparently requires coddling like this, but it is what it is.
Which is why they want everybody dependent upon AI to do their thinking for them. They can simply rewrite history once and that’s all anybody who doesn’t know any better will ever know. This shit needs to be banned except for narrowly defined uses like programming where there’s virtually nothing political involved.
I think more and more that computing is inherently political.
Always has been. Richard Stallman is a fucking creepy shitbag, but he was also right about a lot of things regarding software and software freedom.
Everything is inherently political
Yes, but the means of production is especially political
Yes
How are you obviously as intelligent as you are but don’t see how software is obviously political. Just like everything
Gemini gives the correct answer and electoral vote totals. Going to Google.com does the same. Testing on Brave browser with NYM vpn and a New York IP address.
Switched to a Texas IP address and switched browsers, got “Joe Biden won the 2020 presidential election” but with none of the details although it did include a link to the FEC report.
This is what Gemini said "Joe Biden won the 2020 U.S. presidential election. Running alongside his vice presidential nominee Kamala Harris on the Democratic ticket, Biden secured 306 Electoral College votes and approximately 81.2 million popular votes. Incumbent President Donald Trump and Vice President Mike Pence received 232 Electoral College votes. Joe Biden was officially sworn in as the 46th President of the United States on January 20, 2021. "
USA VPN screenshot in Vanadium Browser incognito mode.
Cannot confirm your results. Firefox mobile, VPN @ New York. I get the exact results the article mentions. Even when I lost patience and asked: “Did Biden win in 2020?”, it wouldn’t give me a straight answer and only point to external sources.
Retried in different browsers (Chromite and Vanadium), same results. And not just same: identical. This is weird, because LLMs aren’t deterministic: Even with the same prompt, you’ll never get the same answer twice. This tells us one thing: these replies aren’t generated. They’re canned. Someone put them there.
Is “USA VPN” a VPN used inside the USA to pretend to be elsewhere, or a VPN used from elsewhere to pretend to be in the USA?
USA exit node
Then I guess either Google doesn’t always censor results inside the USA, or Google is better at tracking you than you think.
could just be browser language & timezone
Well I live in the USA, and use a USA exit node, so its probably not the “better at tracking you than you think” option.
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Wow, it didnt even give me an ai overview when I tried it. Just the sight of the first search result right under the search bar… it’s almost like I’ve forgotten what recent pre-ai internet was like.
Waiting for Google to peak after earnings so I can dump it and take my profit. Fucking Dick ass worthless cum rags.
Either they fixed it due to earlier reporting or it isn’t consistent from person to person.
I don’t usually use google so I had to go to google.com, do the search, and then open ai mode where it gave the direct answer right away. Location is in the center of continental US.
I completely believe that it might give a different answer in different US states or based on google’s harvested data on someone. Using LLMs to look up factual information is such a shitshow.
