Lula in, Vucic out. Today was a good day for democracy.
This is why I really like the run-off system of the non-instant variety. It gives people a clear choice and a chance to think. People that might not have voted the first round see a stark choice and may think “yeah I better go vote or we’ll have another Bolsanaro running things and I don’t want that.”
Congrats to Brazil!
The two-round system is actually very similar in its dynamics to instant runoff voting or FPTP with primaries. All these systems feature a centre squeeze. FPTP without primaries is actually a better system, albeit obviously still vastly inferior to a proportional system, which is what all top-tier democracies (and economies for that matter) use. In the FPTP-without-primary era, the US still had statesmen with broad support as presidents (e.g., FDR, Eisenhower, Theodore Roosevelt), and the election of a Trump would have been unfathomable (at least, on the Republican ticket).
Agreed, I like it.
But why multiple election days when you can have a preferential voting system that has runoff inbuilt?
Thank goodness for this outcome though.
Because it provides for the opportunity to strategically vote based on the results of the previous round.
But it’s still down to two and you have one preference. What’s the strategy?
Energize people that may have avoided the initial round of voting but are not faced with a binary decision where they may have a very strong preference rather than a large field of candidates.
I was also on instant running voting as being a superior system but this thread is making some interesting arguments about the role time can play in an election.

Now we wait for the US to stage the coup.
They were already trying during the election, and surely wont stop after

Lula is far from a progressive.
Hitler Mussolini Simeón Flores is centrist, actually
Brazil might be a hard ask. Particularly if there has been trickle down imbecility at the three letter agencies, as I suspect there has.
HELL YEAH! 🥳 🥳 💫
Omg yes.
Much needed after BC.
BC was a decision between a center-left candidate (who was doing some stupid election shenanigans) and a center-center candidate (who is by all reports the most boring politician they could find) in a province in Canada.
This is not any way comparable to a country of over 200M people potentially falling to fascism.
Do they need to be comparable for me to feel a certain way about their respective outcomes? Both matter to me.
To feel like it’s relevant in a thread about an election in another country, yes, it should be comparable.
You should probably work on your empathy a little more if over 200 million people facing fascism gives you the same feelings as a province electing a boring centrist.
Boring centrists, especially conservative ones, lay the groundwork for fascists by eroding the public sector and services.
Thank you, I am working on it right now.
The Tories are still going to fuck up treaty negotiations, wreck sex education, push old growth logging, and sell off our health system. They’ll probably also repeal the single-family home zoning ban.
Going to be a rough FO cycle.
The BC event really made me sad. :/







