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On the other hand, there are times when I have written paragraphs of well sourced text on my phone, and just before pressing “Post” I realize that I don’t care about it.
I just post it. Yeah I’ll be wrong sometimes and I edit my posts a lot, but the Fediverse needs to get those metrics up this quarter.
I’ve deleted more than I’ve posted here.
If one views them as discussions instead of arguments, they tend to turn out better.
Only if both sides do it.
On the other hand, one thing an internet argument (or other forms of public debate) can do is change the audience’s minds, or bring them to your cause if they’re uncommitted. Lenin became the effective Russian head of state in part by being good at debates.
I generally never enter an online debate with the intention of convincing the other person of my point of view. I enter a debate to provide a (hopefully) strong counter argument for the benefit of the lurkers reading.
As an example, I am extremely unlikely to convince a tankie that the USSR’s authoritarianism is a bad thing, but my arguments may help a less politically savy reader not become duped by a tankie’s propaganda, and that’s worthwhile to try for.
This is exactly what I do. I’m pretty much the unpopular opinion in most threads, but the point is to offer a nuanced take. Only, the problem is- nuance is frowned upon a lot nowadays.
I do it to explore and solidify my own thoughts and beliefs. Otherwise they kind of just float around half-formed and
*recieves hundreds of downclicks for my long ass rant*
FUCK ALL YALL I’M RIIIIIIIGH
Sometimes it’s about clarifying your own thoughts.
Good thing that argument fizzled out in a chase for internet points and nothing was taken out on the streets.
Sometimes it’s more about convincing the random lurkers reading everything than convincing the person you’re arguing against.
(Also, people rarely admit losing an argument and changing their mind in the moment. But later on, in private, they might change their views because of the argument.)
Hard agree, being down with lurk-gang for so long helped me flesh out a ton of opinions I’d otherwise be a chud about.
It’s not about changing minds, it’s about being right. 😎
According to this it’s more about being homogenous and tuned into the platform hive-mind.
Those arguments are for the onlookers.
