• gedaliyah@lemmy.worldM
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    17 hours ago

    According to police, Marvin repeatedly blocked the robot’s path and ignored multiple commands from officers to move.

    She was arrested and charged with disorderly conduct.

    Can standing in a public space legally be enforced as “disorderly conduct?”

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      17 hours ago

      Yes. If you’re standing in the way of a wheelchair ramp someone needs and an officer asks you multiple times to move and you don’t there should be recourse for that. I think it’s pretty standard globally to have allowances for that.

      Plenty of public places are protected and/or have areas you’re not able to stand at all. Just because you’re not on someone’s private property doesn’t mean you are entitled to be there or do whatever you want there. In the US we even have a loitering regulations that don’t even require you to be specifically impeding something.

      All that said, I think these robots should be more regulated and any companies using them are garbage.

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        16 hours ago

        I’d think that would be Obstructing public thoroughfare. Without saying the full interaction, it’s hard to say. It looks like she’s just standing in one place and it’s possible to pass on one side. It’ll be interesting to see what the lawyers decide on this one.

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          The robot couldn’t pass on either side. She’s blocking a sidewalk ramp

          What even is this argument you’re trying to make?

          She was given a lawrul order to move by police. She did not comply. Disorderly conduct is a very common result of that

          The law is structured such that you have to follow officer instructions, even if they are unlawful. If you were given an unlawful order, your recourse is to sue the city. It’s not a great system, but it’s the American one

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      Disorderly conduct is usually written so broadly that it can be anything the police say it is.

      Being charged with disorderly conduct is basicly proof you did nothing wrong. If you’d done anything actually illegal they would’ve charged you with that.

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        You ever worked with middle-schoolers? Sometimes you need broad “don’t be an asshat” rules because otherwise some jerks will make it their life’s mission to make life hell for other people while technically not violating any rules.

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      16 hours ago

      If she kept moving to be in front of it, it’s not just standing there as you’re framing it.

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      She wasn’t charged with disorderly conduct for standing. She was charged with it for repeatedly moving and for ignoring officers’ commands to stop moving.

      If she did that to you while you are trying to get to your office for an important meeting, how would you feel about her actions? If the robot did that to you, how upset would you be?