Nazis killed 13 million people in WW2, Israel killed 80,000 in this war. I think most people here can agree Israel is historically evil, but let’s not play genocide Olympics with Nazis, not a good look.
let’s not play genocide Olympics with Nazis, not a good look.
You turn it into an Olympics by plucking two things out of their context and comparing raw death numbers, that is on you. A genocide is a genocide, so I am just placing them as two of the most evil states in the last century.
But if you really want to compare numbers, Nazis killed millions of Jews during WW2 where crossing borders and occupying whole countries was possible. State of Israel killed about 80000 Palestinians in peace time (and after decades of policies implemented to enforce the opinion that killing civilians is a war crime) displaced millions by levelling entire regions with bombs and is still actively causing millions of them to live in starvation and extreme poverty. Impact-wise these are quite similar, but somehow you think these are incomparable? You think that if we were in WW3, state of Israel wouldn’t kill millions? I am pretty convinced they would. No need to play the “when you compare the two you lessen the atrocities done by Nazi Germany” game, especially considering Nazi Germany paid the price (admittedly because they lost, otherwise I don’t think they would) where as State of Israel is walking out of this unscathed as it stands.
No need to play the “when you compare the two you lessen the atrocities done by Nazi Germany” game.
No you are lessening the atrocities done by Israel. 80,000 is a massive number. Putting it against the largest genocide of the last hundred years is minimizing what Israel has done… I still think comparing the two is tasteless anyway because antisemites equate Israel with all Jews and salivate at the comparison.
All of our middle eastern direct deaths combined are under 1 million. But even a single death in war is horrific.
There is no need to compare suffering. If anything comparing against an outsized disaster like WW2 only serves to minimize how horrific all of these present day wars are, even if the death tolls are smaller. I think people get some weird perversion in comparing Israel to Nazis, its just weird, imo. Highlight the actual horror that is happening today.
Nazis killed 13 million people in WW2, Israel killed 80,000 in this war. I think most people here can agree Israel is historically evil, but let’s not play genocide Olympics with Nazis, not a good look.
You turn it into an Olympics by plucking two things out of their context and comparing raw death numbers, that is on you. A genocide is a genocide, so I am just placing them as two of the most evil states in the last century.
But if you really want to compare numbers, Nazis killed millions of Jews during WW2 where crossing borders and occupying whole countries was possible. State of Israel killed about 80000 Palestinians in peace time (and after decades of policies implemented to enforce the opinion that killing civilians is a war crime) displaced millions by levelling entire regions with bombs and is still actively causing millions of them to live in starvation and extreme poverty. Impact-wise these are quite similar, but somehow you think these are incomparable? You think that if we were in WW3, state of Israel wouldn’t kill millions? I am pretty convinced they would. No need to play the “when you compare the two you lessen the atrocities done by Nazi Germany” game, especially considering Nazi Germany paid the price (admittedly because they lost, otherwise I don’t think they would) where as State of Israel is walking out of this unscathed as it stands.
No you are lessening the atrocities done by Israel. 80,000 is a massive number. Putting it against the largest genocide of the last hundred years is minimizing what Israel has done… I still think comparing the two is tasteless anyway because antisemites equate Israel with all Jews and salivate at the comparison.
That is precisely why I say state of Israel and not even Israel. And probably more accurately zionists.
Now add in all the countries that the US has invaded/bombed at the behest of israel.
All of our middle eastern direct deaths combined are under 1 million. But even a single death in war is horrific.
There is no need to compare suffering. If anything comparing against an outsized disaster like WW2 only serves to minimize how horrific all of these present day wars are, even if the death tolls are smaller. I think people get some weird perversion in comparing Israel to Nazis, its just weird, imo. Highlight the actual horror that is happening today.