• TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Well, that’s why the state of Israel was formed, so Jews all over the world would have a place to go if they feel unsafe where they are. All the genocidal colonialism was for nothing if they’re not even going to use it for what it was intended for.

    • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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      The original Zionists were pretty explicit about being colonizers, it was more about stealing land than being safe.

      So, I don’t really want them to use Israel for what it was intended for. I’d rather they stay here actually.

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      2 days ago

      Coming dangerously close to the right wing “actually Zionism is good because it means we can finally get rid of all of the Jews from the United States” bullshit

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        Look, my point is that they have options. If legitimate criticism of the genocide being carried out by Jewish Zionists makes them uncomfortable, they do not have to stay here and listen to it. I’m not saying they can’t stay here, I’m not saying they should be expelled or forcibly deported, nor am I condoning or advocating for discrimination or harassment against Jewish people in general, I’m saying those Jewish people who are uncomfortable here, for whatever, reason do not have to stay here. No slippery slope or reading between the lines, that’s it.

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          It’s not unreasonable for a group of people to work together to make the place they live safer for them, whether it’s from the authorities or the crowd or both. There are plenty of ways the Jews of New York have historically done that, and can do that now, without leaving.

          They have no power over Netanyahu but he has none over them.

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            17 hours ago

            Then they need to stand up and vocalise that Israel does not speak for them.

            Right now, they claim to, and they are weaponizing that claim to do mass harm.

      • Carl@anarchist.nexus
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        2 days ago

        You caught a few downvotes, but you’re not wrong. Lots of people genuinely don’t realize that a large part of the conservative support for Israel is rooted in “give them a place on the other side of the planet, so they’re not my neighbor anymore” antisemitism. That, and the fire-and-brimstone Christian belief that the end times will be kicked off when all the Jews return to their homeland.

        • gnate@lemmy.world
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          18 hours ago

          It always was a case of Not In My Backyard. So they (Britain, et al) picked somebody else’s backyard instead. They didn’t care about the Palestinians back then either.