• DFX4509B@lemmy.wtfOP
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      14 hours ago

      Not gonna matter when apps and services start blocking Linux, or even worse, should this shit creep up the chain to the ISP level and should ISPs start requiring an Apple, Google, or MS OS just to get online to begin with.

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        My fear is that personal devices will be super expensive and out of reach for most people and the only devices available will be subscription run and cloud served only. Enfeebled portable device and no power to own or even run anything locally. Locked in! No way out.

        That is why the tech bros are going all in on the datacenters and burning books. Setting fire to the bridge as they cross.

        Ai is just the excuse and the manufactured scarcity of hardware is the weapon that they hope to use to hold us hostage.

      • Em Adespoton@lemmy.ca
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        13 hours ago

        That’s when I buy a LoRa array and a ham license.

        The thing about the Internet is that anyone can be an ISP and any devices can be networked. If consumer ISPs become gatekeepers, we can network without them. And then we can tunnel encrypted data over the official devices that can’t be fully locked down.

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          13 hours ago

          when I buy a LoRa array and a ham license.

          And talk to who? You (and I) and the 0.001% can ham it up, but the rest of the world will be living in a different bubble.

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            9 hours ago

            Talk to like-minded people - like you and me here, sitting on Fediverse, discussing tech. Help set family and friends up with access. That’s what I do today with my Matrix server.

            The rest of the world rarely have anything good to say.

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            12 hours ago

            Well Meshcore only recently arrived here, but you can still reach Latvia from southern Finland. Not completely effortlessly though.

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            And talk to who? You (and I) and the 0.001% can ham it up, but the rest of the world will be living in a different bubble.

            And just talk btw, no bandwidth for anything else

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          12 hours ago

          LoRaWAN and HaLOW WiFi don’t need HAM licenses unless you’re just being prepared!

          I’m looking to setup Meshcore myself for a 900MHz setup.

          • Em Adespoton@lemmy.ca
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            12 hours ago

            Yeah; the HAM is a “next step” thing for if they lock down the microwave band somehow.

            But also, a HAM license is required to operate LoRa at higher power broadcast, at least in my country. At under 10km range low bandwidth, it isn’t currently needed.

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              OK gotcha. I thought regulations were pretty standard across Europe and North America. I didn’t realize LoRa itself could get beyond 10km but that’s maybe bc I’ve been looking at consumer grade stuff.

        • DFX4509B@lemmy.wtfOP
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          12 hours ago

          What’s stopping the FCC or your country’s equivalent from locking down HAM regulations?

          • Em Adespoton@lemmy.ca
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            That’s an interesting one actually. If they licked down HAM regulations, they’d lose their relief valve/last line of defense.

            It’s not that some idiotic government couldn’t do it, but if they did then they’d lose what control they currently have AND be totally screwed of anything went wrong.

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              11 hours ago

              You’re not making a single point for why trump wouldn’t do this on a whim because some corporate asshole smiled at him and praised him.

        • Dharma Curious (he/him)@slrpnk.net
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          … You can just be your own ISP? Is that, like, an actual thing one can do, or more a last ditch hypothetical thing that’s technically possible, but realistically not doable?

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            Yeah, just like you can run your own SMTP service and exchange e-mail, or… could 25 years ago before the big players froze all the small players out of the big network pool. You can set up your own internet, your own e-mail network, etc. but the Facebooks, Whats Apps, Apples and Googles of the world will lock your internet out of their internet.

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              But that’s a good thing and the whole point? You can use the big tech internet and all their services, or you can use the non big tech internet and not use their services.

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      Linux ain’t gonna save you. The major distros rolled over at speed of LIGHT when this shit started popping off earlier in the year. I was disgusted and appalled at how fast many of the major FOSS players caved in. You’re going to need to move to BSD or Haiku or something.

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        You miss the point of Linux. Even if major distros roll over, there will be other distros that don’t. If there is a demand for a distro with specific use case, it will be created and released by somebody. The major distros are only popular and major because they serve the needs of the majority. When they don’t, they won’t be major or popular.

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        Which major distros rolled over? AFAIK only systemd - used by the large majority of distros - added a field in some config json related to age. It’s not being used ATM anyway.