Carney reportedly seeks ‘associate’ EU membership as Ottawa-Washington ties hit fresh low. He will address the European Parliament next week.

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    1 day ago

    I don’t think I would be on board with Canada in EU even as an associate. Perhaps one of the looser agreements. There’re a great many pros and cons, but also too many unknowns and the risk of leaking American influence.

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      18 hours ago

      The UK is just as big of a US influence risk to the EU and there’s talks of allowing them back in.

      Canada basically borders the EU, I don’t see why not. The more the merrier. We will build our own NATO, with blackjack and hookers.

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      24 hours ago

      Very good point and something to keep in mind at all times.

      However, all EU institutions are already filled with American assets, so American influence isn’t really a risk anymore.

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        23 hours ago

        There are small initiatives to re establish sovereignty, the Linux adoption being a key example. (Even though Linux is also ‘american’). Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.

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        23 hours ago

        That’s what Russian propaganda and Russia’s parties in the EU keep telling us and US supported parties too (surprise: those are the same parties). Makes you wonder why they are so desparate to destroy the EU if they control it already.

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          20 hours ago

          Personally I find it incredibly likely purely based on the EU’s decision making. If EU institutions aren’t controlled largely by American assets… why would they keep making decisions that benefit the US and hurt the EU?

          At least several high-profile EU officials also have very close familial ties to American officials or businessmen.

          They’re either foreign agents, or grossly incompetent. Not all, of course, but a good number.

          As for Russia, I’d say it’s way too weak to have anywhere close to that much influence over a richer, more powerful, more populous territory. I’m sure it does have some, but nowhere near that level.

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            17 hours ago

            There is plenty of high profile legislation in the EU, the US absolutely hates, if the US had had its say there would be no Gallileo, at all, there will be no Iris2, etc. The US also hates many regulatory decisions by the EU and it hates most rulings by the EU judicative.

            None of those things should be the case if the EU were as dominated by the US as you say.

            What is of course correct is that the US does have influence, so does China and other major blocks.

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              17 hours ago

              I dare to say that EU’s growing independence from the US is part of the hostile approach the US has walked for the past decade or so.

              It didn’t start with Trump and didn’t stop under Biden.

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                17 hours ago

                No, that is merely accelerating it. Much of what I was talking about was already there from day 1 of European unification or along the way.