• sensualsunset@lemmy.world
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      1 day ago

      The bar isn’t high… while he isn’t PiPi PooPoi (Polievre) he’s been a typical politician snake. Particularly on climate policy, doubling down on pipelines through Indigenous land, and whatever the fuck a Minister of AI is.

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        A minister of AI makes sense, you can’t just ignore it.

        A stable economic environment allows for us to make investments today that pay off in the future, but in a war like environment you need to mobilize the infrastructure you have and build support around it. Whether we like it or not we have a number of valuable resources in the ground and we need to start moving those resources elsewhere so we can invest in a renewable future.

        There’s a lot of stuff I disagree with Carney on, but what I appreciate about him is that he is a pragmatist. He understands that at times you have to put your personal values aside and take the action that makes the most sense.

        Winston Churchill was a racist, but he had the balls to take on Germany and not bend. Lincoln hindered post war reconstruction and his authoritarian overreach was unprecedented but he was the only person willing to tear a nation apart to rebuild it.

        Leaders need to be able to put themselves aside to make decisions that produce the most utility for those they lead. This means occasionally getting pie on your face or going against your own heart. A snake acts dishonestly with malice, that’s not what’s going on here. Our current circumstances demand pragmatism we can’t crucify the only person in the room willing to act like one in the face of that.

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          7 hours ago

          I agree with what you said, but gotta nitpick on the Lincoln example. Lincoln explicitly did not want to tear the US apart when he became President. He was an abolitionist but his goal was a peaceful transition away from slavery over generations. This moderate stance was unacceptable to the Southern states and so they went to war because they wanted slavery to be permanent and for it to be spread.

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            6 hours ago

            lol you’re right but it doesn’t flow as nicely.

            Ima big Lincoln fan, greatest leader of all time IMO

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          22 hours ago

          Socialism, not pragmatism my friend. Comparing him to Churchill doesn’t make much sense as he’s way less enthusiastic. And typical man on the internet justifying racism for the sake of economic gain. As a climate scientist, renewable now. GTFO with your oil and gas.