• Rusty Shackleford@programming.dev
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    4 days ago

    I should clarify.

    I’m an American not of European descent. I’m not “white”. I’m perfectly aware that I live in a country (one of several) that enslaved my people during the colonial era of western Europe.

    When I was growing up in the eighties and nineties, my impression was that Europe’s lower and middle classes had largely evolved past the marriage of conservative economics, might-makes-right, and “fuck-the-brown-people-if-they-get-too-much-money” thinking behind. I’m certainly aware that “god, glory, and gold” did not start in the United States.

    When I moved to the EU, in the Netherlands, I was right about my estimation but I was taken aback by some people’s parroting the conservative religious nationalist talking points that’s destroying the US currently. It’s just that it was much more than I expected.

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      Then you didnt do any reading then. There’s a reason ppl want to piss on Margaret Thatcher’s grave. Plus you got economic colonialist France and Spain’s dictatorship ending in the 70s. Also the amount of blackface they claim that totally isnt racist. Fuck Zwarte Piet

      Europe is like Canada, they just have good PR. There’s a fuckton of skeletons in their closet and they havent changed as much as ppl like to think. Im an black American living in Germany and I clocked immediately its exactly the same as America. They just dont say the quiet parts outloud as often

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        3 days ago

        They just dont say the quiet parts outloud as often

        You also don’t ‘currently’ have to worry about your kids being abducted from school by ICE in Germany. The quiet part out loud was annoying, but the shit actually happening is horrifying.

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            3 days ago

            yeah, me pointing out the ICE shit is just circumstantial, not my entire point or anything…

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        3 days ago

        The lack of racial diversity in Europe is what makes it look like there isn’t as much racism as in the US. There just isn’t as much opportunity for the racists to be racist.

        Side question for a black person in Germany: is “black music” a common term in Germany? I was on a bus going from Freiburg to Strasburg and saw a poster for a bar playing “Black Music” on Friday nights. I didn’t know if that was supposed to mean rap or jazz or blues or what.

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          3 days ago

          Black music usual just means afrobeats. In this particular case “black music” advertisements usually means the club or party is full of fat white chick’s looking for African dudes