Ubuntu is the leading distro, if I’m not mistaken. It’s also compatible with Mint, Zorin, Xubuntu, etc, which are another leading distros than Fedora. Is it only for redhat users or secondary distro?
Ubuntu (which is based on Debian) can be too slow to adopt newer software.
Arch on the other side is too quick.
Fedora is a good balance in-between.
Nearly all other distros are derived from these 3 families.
That and Ubuntu’s obsession with Snaps is unhealthy. So many people recommend Debian or Mint over Ubuntu, if you want something very stable.
I was going to say, Fedora is not trying to push a bunch of snap apps up the users ass.
Interesting I would have assumed it was slower than Ubuntu in comparison given it’s association with RHEL but looking it up it’s sort of their “tip of the spear” when it comes to release testing. TIL
Ubuntu is based off of Debian, just use Debian instead.
Go ahead and try Ubuntu and let me know how much you love their “App Store” experience. So many broken apps in their Snap store.
Fedora just works. Ubuntu is like the Windows of Linux. They think they know better than their users and, as such, try to force feed you the things they think are better, even when they’re worse.
Avoid Fedora Flatpaks (their repo, not Flathub) because of broken apps. OBS got pissed at them a while back for user reporting bugs that were only present in the downstream repackaging by Fedora. Broken af.
Huh. Good to know. I haven’t experienced issues with using Fedora Flatpaks, but I also mostly use Flathub and always immediately add support for it in Discover.
Not enough people in here mentioning how nice a base vanilla DE experience is. I love vanilla gnome and it’s so refreshing to set up a fresh fedora install and have it so clean.
It’s also compatible with Mint, Zorin, Xubuntu, etc, which are another leading distros than Fedora.
What do you mean? Any distro is compatible with any other distro.
Ubuntu forces Snaps (app packaging format) down your throat that take up more space and RAM than Flatpaks, were developed with powerful servers in mind first and common user second and are less commutity-developed standard. Also, last time I checked it had some sponsored bloatware.
They might be thinking of .deb vs .rpm
I haven’t touched it in a few years but I had to switch distro because (X)Ubuntu filled my system SSD with multiple copied of every single Snap it had installed. Iirc it saved the last 3 versions and there was no way of turning it off
IMO Ubuntu is a good fit for people who don’t want to learn anything about computers and have no opinions about how their OS should work, so they want someone else to make all decisions for them. Nothing inherently wrong with that, it’s just not for me. I switched to Fedora because I want to be in control of my computer
The only reason is f*ck snap and Ubuntu for forcing it onto users
I prefer Fedora over Ubuntu because they are more up to date and put Flatpak over Snap.
But the real reason I originally switched was that the Ubuntu installer crashed 5 times in a row and then I tried Fedora and liked it
If you are comfortable using fedora or if you are fine learning about fedora, use fedora.
I personally wouldn’t use Ubuntu with it’s recent controversy in specific the “explicit AI features” planned to be implemented within ubuntu. I’d suggest avoiding it out of privacy concerns even if it runs locally on your system.
the general trend for AI adoption, is to make it accessible for anyone to onboard, and then slowly control the users by (for example) making users connect to their servers to use their chatbot which then they can train, and have a better profile of you.
Canonical never mentioned that, in fact they mentioned quite the inverse. but any implementation of an AI chatbot, Tech companies aren’t doing it because of how revolutionary AI is. The AI is the product and your data is what they want.
I’m not saying canonical is pursuing that initiative, but that’s generally how it goes for most tech companies. Don’t take my word for it, ask yourself, “what service does Ubuntu provide? what financial backing (sponsorships) do they have?” I’ve looked far and wide and the only thing I’ve found is, they offer a free OS install as their consumer grade product, and a subscription service to their enterprise network that is clearly not a sustainable business model (from an engineering perspective) for a multi-thousand employee company.
Ubuntu is the most broken distro I have ever used. From when it first came out until today.
Pick anything over Ubuntu.
I do really like fedora. If you want the latest stuff as fast as a rolling distro, with zero update issues, you want fedora.
Ubuntu may have experienced a downturn but there was a time where Red Hat and later on Fedora wasn’t very user friendly. Ubuntu dramatically increased Linux adoption so I will always like it for that, but I think you are correct nowadays.
Canonical sucks.
I just switched from PopOS (Ubuntu) to Nobara (Fedora) and I fucking love it. Its a perfect middle ground between bleeding edge Arch and slow to adopt Ubuntu. Also, flatpack.
Personally, I really like dnf over apt, SELinux over apparmor, and firewalld over ufw, but it’s all personal preference.
I don’t know how they do it because I’m too lazy to read source code, but dnf’s conflict resolution algorithms are so crazily good it’s scary. I have borked my Fedora installation beyond repair, or so I thought, then I chrooted and upgraded and had a fresh new good install with all my data intact.
I second all of this.
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the corporate side of Red Hat is far less evident on Fedora than Canonical’s on Ubuntu
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vanilla UX
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Atomic editions
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fast yet stable updates
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more lightweight ISO
it also has disadvantages, specially for nontechnical folks
- Free Software Policy (NVIDIA drivers and some codecs not pre-installed)
- non LTS version available (Atomic desktops are easier to manage if keeping un-updated for very long periods)
- it uses RPM packages which are good, but there might be some software only offering DEBs (containers and extraction tools can help with that)
- non LTS version available (Atomic desktops are easier to manage if keeping un-updated for very long periods)
Fedora is a semi-rolling release distribution, so this isn’t really a problem for a desktop or laptop. It’s really an advantage for desktops and laptops.
- it uses RPM packages which are good, but there might be some software only offering DEBs (containers and extraction tools can help with that)
A lot of software is packaged as a Flatpak image, so less of a problem then it used to be.
If you want LTS, you would pick something like RockyLinux. They offer support for 10 years per release.
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Snap
Another user mentioned a handful of benefits. I would add that Fedora is more secure than Ubuntu or any of the derivatives you mentioned out of the box. In fact, it’s more secure than most other regular Linux distros.
I also like that it uses vanilla versions of Gnome and KDE. They leave the customization to the end user.
Speaking of KDE, if you prefer it, there are few distros that do it better. Maybe OpenSUSE Tubleweed or
Open Mandriva ROME. For me, Fedora KDE Plasma fits my needs almost perfectly.Finally, I think the installer is way better. Ubuntu’s has become less flexible over the years. Fedora’s is still super easy but offers a lot more options.
The one potential drawback I can think of is that official versions of some software are only available as a .deb. That’s more and more rare in my experience.
I recently learned that OpenMandriva’s president (warning, lunduke link as evidence) has declared the project “non-woke” and “anti-DEI”, which has resulted in it attracting a hard right community. IMO, a good reason to avoid it.
Ahh good to know! Such a shame.
There’s at least Mageia still carrying the Mandrake/Mandriva torch without that baggage :)
i lost a lot of brain cells reading through that second link and i’d like them back
