• qaz@lemmy.worldOP
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    4 days ago

    Well, then Google shouldn’t have just scraped the site then. It’s not JABDE’s responsibility to make their content suitable for LLM training

    • Lovable Sidekick@lemmy.world
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      3 days ago

      It’s everybody’s responsibility not to spray piss in random directions hoping some of it will hit somebody they hate.

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        It’s everybody’s responsibility to get fucking literate in the use of media. Examples like these are harmless and just point out how easy it is for malicious actors, be it states, political partys, or other groups and individuals, to spread misinformation.
        The use of AI tools such as LLMs makes this even more important.

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        3 days ago

        One thing about internet sources is that in general, people engage with them if they choose to. Your piss-spraying analogy only works if the users don’t have this freedom. At least for now, we the end users still have the choice to engage with LLM’s, or to choose to navigate elsewhere.

        So no, there is no randomly pissing around hoping that LLM training data is among the things being hit. It’s Big G demanding everything as LLM training data and tossing it on the heap, and someone finding that said heap includes The Onion and individual shitposters, and with their dislike for LLM’s, acting accordingly.

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          I always wonder how many of my old snarky Reddit posts without a /s tag is now incorrectly advising people making LLM requests haha.

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          Oh one more thing:

          Be glad that OP’s site is shitposting.

          This could get much worse if it was politically motivated propaganda.

          Don’t believe me? Try getting DeepSeek to say anything critical of the CCP.

        • Lovable Sidekick@lemmy.world
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          Your rationale doesn’t change that dirtying the data pool is dirtying the data pool. Choosing to engage with LLMs or not doesn’t change make non-AI searches ignore nonsense data.

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        Ok so now we make everyone be nice and do not post satire and miss information on the Internet so that the LLMs don’t spread misinformation?

        Yeah this will probably work very well…

        As if nobody is going exploit that.

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            Sadly AI can not differentiate between the two.

            And while I wish nobody would post misinformation I don’t think you can anything about it except controlling access to the Internet

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              Social pressure affects behavior, but that doesn’t happen if we all automatically jump up and down waving pompoms the moment anything looks anti-AI.

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        It’s more a case of when you go to the piss spraying machine you can’t get mad if you get a little piss on you. Everyone seems to have forgotten that the internet is where people go to tell lies for fun

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            The Internet is and has always been a lie spreading machine. Both on and off social media.

            Your analogy of peeing in the pool is entirely off base. If these were false scientific papers posted to real established scientific journals that would certainly be unacceptable behavior but that’s not what is being discussed here

            • Lovable Sidekick@lemmy.world
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              That’s binary thinking. Litter on the roadside doesn’t justify calling roads a junkyard and dismissing the idea of cleaning them up, let alone treating littering as social activism because you heard Elon Musk hates litter, or some other misdirected motive.