“Robinson’s mother said her son had started to lean more to the left, Utah County Attorney Jeff Gray told a news conference on Tuesday, “becoming more pro-gay and trans-rights orientated””
+2 Proud republican behavior: “Public records reviewed by the BBC suggest Robinson had in the past registered as an unaffiliated, or nonpartisan, voter in Utah. His parents, Matthew Carl Robinson and Amber Denise Robinson, are registered Republicans, according to state records”
+3 Common republican things “Authorities have said the unnamed roommate was a “biological male” who was transitioning from man to woman and was in a romantic relationship with the defendant.”
Based ongovernment and independent analyses, right-wing extremist violence has been responsible for the overwhelming majority of fatalities, amounting to approximately 75% to 80% of U.S. domestic terrorism deaths since 2001.
Meanwhile, elsewhere on lemmy, you are apparently fairly recently starting HRT yourself, or considering it, and are concerned about a potential crackdown on transfolk in Hungary.
Yea I was told that being contradictory to your groups interest not only makes me a right winger but an American too somehow, lets add troll to that list
The only evidence available to us points us to him being a leftist, regardless of how many folks get butthurt by that fact
I could not comprehend why anyone would use that word there… Do you think it would be an intelligent thing to say that black people must be behind crime ‘a’ or say this crime, because statistically they commit more crime? Oh, but this nonsense must work in your proposition because its in favor of your rhetoric!
And I am sure that those statistics are right! Comparably why don’t you believe that a black person committed this crime? They are statistically more likely to commit crimes!
Someone who is scientifically illiterate to plead someone else’s argument is far less bad as being so ideologically blinded as to be incapable of accepting that ‘a’ thing was done by your tribe!
I do! I could easily get the guy to realize that he does not understand what he is talking about and what he is denying!
Lets compare that to here! Here I was called a maga right winger, an american, a troll and crazy for calling the killer leftist with the info with which I arrived to that conclusion! I have asked multiple times why anyone thinks he is right winger and despite the hundreds of down votes no one answered….
Oh love can you bend backwards a little harder so that you finally break your spine and I finally won’t have to listen to you throwing a tantrum? I would really appreciate it!
Quoting from a bbc article is not evidence anymore…
Not when the article is just citing what the police say without corroboration, no it isn’t. But as we’ve already discussed, you aren’t interested in the truth, and I’m just gonna keep laughing at you.
Yea, in opposition to your fewwings as you nor any of you were capable of providing anything else!
Riiight, the person who posted the 1 source about the killer in this whole thread is not interested in the truth… Go on keep bending, I am already hearing the cracks
There’s a thing called “Poe’s Law” that states “without a clear indicator of the author’s intent, any parodic or sarcastic expression of extreme views can be mistaken by some readers for a sincere expression of those views.”
So your “joke” relies on the idea that zero rightwing nutjobs will read it as encouragement. Which is just highly unlikely.
It’s very difficult to joke about extremism online because there’ll almost always be extremists who take it as encouragement. To them, you’re indistinguishable from any other MAGA supporter.
Its not a joke, on the information available to us I am led to believe that he was a leftist!
What they have in the Us, in terms of political ideologies, cannot be considered leftism by an stretch of the word! Alas, I would have no insecurities if one of my tribesmen were to do something I disagree with
Its extremism to believe that a person on whom all information available points to him leaning to left being someone who leans to the left… I reckon I am an extremist
“All information available” is apparently one BBC article that you keep posting over and over, while calling numerous articles and studies on the ideology of most domestic terrorists “made up,” and the conclusions you draw from your one single source an “assumption.” Gosh that’s some irrefutable evidence you’ve got there chief. 🙄
Okay to be fair, I have a realistic Doug Ford (corrupt Conservative Premier of Ontario) mask that I love adding to random halloween costumes. I hate the guy with a passion and am very much on the left but I still find it funny
Do you guys dress up as people you look up for to an event where you supposedly scare people into giving you candy?
“Robinson’s mother said her son had started to lean more to the left, Utah County Attorney Jeff Gray told a news conference on Tuesday, “becoming more pro-gay and trans-rights orientated””
+2 Proud republican behavior: “Public records reviewed by the BBC suggest Robinson had in the past registered as an unaffiliated, or nonpartisan, voter in Utah. His parents, Matthew Carl Robinson and Amber Denise Robinson, are registered Republicans, according to state records”
+3 Common republican things “Authorities have said the unnamed roommate was a “biological male” who was transitioning from man to woman and was in a romantic relationship with the defendant.”
Yea, your rights he was probably a republican! Well not because of the evidence but because it would kinda sound funny if another right wing monkey were shot by their voters
‘More to the left’ of MAGA is not ‘leftist’, ffs. That whole family is deep MAGA, so more to the left isn’t even necessary centrist. Libertarian, maybe, or still far right, but thinks LGBTQ people might be people.
Are you even paying attention? Do you think trans people, women, and immigrants deserve rights? Answer honestly.
You said ‘leftist’, and you made claims about that based on what his grandmother said.
I said coming from a MAGA family, ‘drifting left’ doesn’t necessarily mean ‘leftist’. Compared to MAGA, ‘moving left’ can mean anything from libertarian to centrist. That’s not a claim, it’s calling you on your claim.
We don’t yet know anything about him other than his family is MAGA and Mormon, so let’s not speculate what his beliefs are, eh?
Mother, now now someone is even struggling with reading exerts from a source…
Coming from a background is almost as weak sauce as your statistics argument
Aaaaaaah, so now we go from he is ‘right wing ‘to lets not speculate… If we go by facts researched provided by an actually neutral party, that of the british national news source, we can only assume that he was left leaning and by his action that he is an extremist! Just because he did something you actually don’t disagree with I reckon, but is disadvantageous for your group does not give you the right to decide his political beliefs
Tyler Robinson was probably a leftist!
/s?
He was raised Mormon in a full MAGA family, and nearly all photos show him surrounded with rifles.
He may have been confused, and I can buy he went libertarian, but if he was a leftist, I’ll eat my hat on camera.
e: oh no, it wasn’t /s, judging by your other comments. That’s just sad.
I haven’t seen any hard evidence he was a full-on leftist, but I haven’t seen any hard evidence he was maga either.
From what I’ve seen, he was definitely left of his parents, but there’s a whole lot of different ideologies to the left of maga.
I think the only way we’ll know for sure his ideology is if he says so.
Rightist fake news!
The bbc is now right wing fake news…
+2 Proud republican behavior: “Public records reviewed by the BBC suggest Robinson had in the past registered as an unaffiliated, or nonpartisan, voter in Utah. His parents, Matthew Carl Robinson and Amber Denise Robinson, are registered Republicans, according to state records”
+3 Common republican things “Authorities have said the unnamed roommate was a “biological male” who was transitioning from man to woman and was in a romantic relationship with the defendant.”
Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp8wl2y66p9o.amp
To your point #3 just because there is a trans person, doesn’t mean they are left wing. See caitlyn jenner
One of the first transpersons I ever met was a loud and proud anarcho-capitalist.
Regardless, overwhelming majority of right wimgers reject and shun transfolk
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Who would axe him? He is a spiritual equivalent of a streamer…
Statistically, no.
…statistically?
Yes, statistically.
Thats the weakest argument I have heard today and I spike with a flat earth believer…
Meanwhile, elsewhere on lemmy, you are apparently fairly recently starting HRT yourself, or considering it, and are concerned about a potential crackdown on transfolk in Hungary.
https://lemmy.world/post/25665488
From which side of the political spectrum do you think that would come from?
The… left, apparently?
Obvious troll is obvious.
Either that, or you bounced off the idea of transitioning so hard that you became either a complete idiot, or basically a fascist.
It can be difficult to tell the difference between those two.
Not impossible I guess, but certainly does make you seem incredibly unstable.
Yea I was told that being contradictory to your groups interest not only makes me a right winger but an American too somehow, lets add troll to that list
The only evidence available to us points us to him being a leftist, regardless of how many folks get butthurt by that fact
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp8wl2y66p9o
I am only talking about you.
How are you doing?
Everything… okay? Hunky dory?
Right, so I am a right winger, american, troll and crazy for being against your group’s rhetoric with facts… Sure-sies
What?
You asked for statistics, and here are the statistics.
And spiking a flat-earther isn’t the flex you think it is. I could probably spike a 2nd grader, but I wouldn’t brag about doing it.
Statistics don’t give any evidence about the ideology of any particular shooting. The statistics say that around 20% are done by people on the left.
That’s nowhere near close enough to confidently state Robinson wasn’t on the left.
I could not comprehend why anyone would use that word there… Do you think it would be an intelligent thing to say that black people must be behind crime ‘a’ or say this crime, because statistically they commit more crime? Oh, but this nonsense must work in your proposition because its in favor of your rhetoric!
That was not a flex, it was an insult :))
You could have stopped there.
Click links, read links. The information is there for you, if you’d take a moment to learn.
And I am sure that those statistics are right! Comparably why don’t you believe that a black person committed this crime? They are statistically more likely to commit crimes!
I believe you.
Someone who is scientifically illiterate to plead someone else’s argument is far less bad as being so ideologically blinded as to be incapable of accepting that ‘a’ thing was done by your tribe!
Jesus man, if this is a look inside your brain no wonder you’re conservative
So I am conservative bec I am saying something that is against the interests of your political group… sure
I once saw a guy on LSD running around the NYC streets in his underpants after a Shpongle concert back in '10. He made more sense than you do.
What a completely ridiculous statement. You don’t actually believe all that do you?
I do! I could easily get the guy to realize that he does not understand what he is talking about and what he is denying!
Lets compare that to here! Here I was called a maga right winger, an american, a troll and crazy for calling the killer leftist with the info with which I arrived to that conclusion! I have asked multiple times why anyone thinks he is right winger and despite the hundreds of down votes no one answered….
Maybe we should just lie and pretend he was so you people can have something to actually be afraid of.
1 Not an American 2 Not a right winger
Hahahahahaha sure sparky
Hey now, let’s not judge them as American. They might be a member of the German AFD party!
Being cucked in argument < attack their person
Ain’t you a sad puppy
Yup, saying all thoae facts that are against the interest of your political party makes me an American and right wing
Of course not, that would be ridiculous. The right wing doesn’t use facts, as you’ve nicely demonstrated.
Oh love can you bend backwards a little harder so that you finally break your spine and I finally won’t have to listen to you throwing a tantrum? I would really appreciate it!
Quoting from a bbc article is not evidence anymore…
Not when the article is just citing what the police say without corroboration, no it isn’t. But as we’ve already discussed, you aren’t interested in the truth, and I’m just gonna keep laughing at you.
Yea, in opposition to your fewwings as you nor any of you were capable of providing anything else!
Riiight, the person who posted the 1 source about the killer in this whole thread is not interested in the truth… Go on keep bending, I am already hearing the cracks
There’s a thing called “Poe’s Law” that states “without a clear indicator of the author’s intent, any parodic or sarcastic expression of extreme views can be mistaken by some readers for a sincere expression of those views.”
So your “joke” relies on the idea that zero rightwing nutjobs will read it as encouragement. Which is just highly unlikely.
It’s very difficult to joke about extremism online because there’ll almost always be extremists who take it as encouragement. To them, you’re indistinguishable from any other MAGA supporter.
Its not a joke, on the information available to us I am led to believe that he was a leftist!
What they have in the Us, in terms of political ideologies, cannot be considered leftism by an stretch of the word! Alas, I would have no insecurities if one of my tribesmen were to do something I disagree with
So you’re on the other end of Poe’s law, an extremist with an incoherent viewpoint.
Its extremism to believe that a person on whom all information available points to him leaning to left being someone who leans to the left… I reckon I am an extremist
“All information available” is apparently one BBC article that you keep posting over and over, while calling numerous articles and studies on the ideology of most domestic terrorists “made up,” and the conclusions you draw from your one single source an “assumption.” Gosh that’s some irrefutable evidence you’ve got there chief. 🙄
-Yea, thats all the info we have available! You are welcome to post more, though I reckon you would have if you had any more!
-What studies did I call made up again?
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Leftists who dress as Trump for Hallowe’en:
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Okay to be fair, I have a realistic Doug Ford (corrupt Conservative Premier of Ontario) mask that I love adding to random halloween costumes. I hate the guy with a passion and am very much on the left but I still find it funny
If it’s one of those realistic latex masks, it does sound terrifying – like how the Captain Kirk mask was used for Mike Meyers in Halloween.
Do you guys dress up as people you look up for to an event where you supposedly scare people into giving you candy?
+2 Proud republican behavior: “Public records reviewed by the BBC suggest Robinson had in the past registered as an unaffiliated, or nonpartisan, voter in Utah. His parents, Matthew Carl Robinson and Amber Denise Robinson, are registered Republicans, according to state records”
+3 Common republican things “Authorities have said the unnamed roommate was a “biological male” who was transitioning from man to woman and was in a romantic relationship with the defendant.”
Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp8wl2y66p9o.amp
Yea, your rights he was probably a republican! Well not because of the evidence but because it would kinda sound funny if another right wing monkey were shot by their voters
‘More to the left’ of MAGA is not ‘leftist’, ffs. That whole family is deep MAGA, so more to the left isn’t even necessary centrist. Libertarian, maybe, or still far right, but thinks LGBTQ people might be people.
Are you even paying attention? Do you think trans people, women, and immigrants deserve rights? Answer honestly.
These are the only information we have on which we can take a gander to his beliefs, which point to him being a leftist
On what do you base that he is anything else?
You said ‘leftist’, and you made claims about that based on what his
grandmother said.I said coming from a MAGA family, ‘drifting left’ doesn’t necessarily mean ‘leftist’. Compared to MAGA, ‘moving left’ can mean anything from libertarian to centrist. That’s not a claim, it’s calling you on your claim.
We don’t yet know anything about him other than his family is MAGA and Mormon, so let’s not speculate what his beliefs are, eh?
Mother, now now someone is even struggling with reading exerts from a source…
Coming from a background is almost as weak sauce as your statistics argument
Aaaaaaah, so now we go from he is ‘right wing ‘to lets not speculate… If we go by facts researched provided by an actually neutral party, that of the british national news source, we can only assume that he was left leaning and by his action that he is an extremist! Just because he did something you actually don’t disagree with I reckon, but is disadvantageous for your group does not give you the right to decide his political beliefs