cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/58978579
The online survey of 1,002 U.S. adults was conducted between Jan. 13 and 15. It found that 66 per cent of respondents want Canada to remain an independent nation
Probably 15% of those don’t know what annex means
You propably meant about 88% of them.
I meant 15 % of the total. So only 3% knew what annex meant and still wanted it. Sorry I should have clarified better
Fucking hell that’s too high. They’ve been nothing but an excellent neighbor to us and they want to remain sovereign. This is just a demand for a forever war against old friends that will also result in us actually being attacked on our own soil for once. Because yeah, they know where our bases are and if we’re invading they’re going to use their modern military.
In fact, I’m angry at the term annex here. Annex is a word that feels neutral and like it could be bloodless, the word in question is invade or go to war with. Going to war with Canada would result in attacks on our cities. Civilians will die on both sides for no fucking gain. Billions of dollars in infrastructure will be wiped out for good reason and that’s all assuming that nato stays neutral, which they’ve made pretty clear isn’t the case. We need to start talking here with the people in our lives about how that’s what “annexing” canada looks like, and make damn sure that we get into the 90+% range vociferously opposing this bullshit.
I think even many Canadians don’t think it through. If we survive the initial invasion we will be deprived of education, healthcare, freedom of movement, democratic representation, autonomy, resources like water and electricity, employment and money. Some of us would be pulled out of our homes and disappeared or killed, particularly if we’re vocal critics of the USA. We would be closely watched and guarded and met with violence at the first sign of resistance or noncompliance. Our children would be indoctrinated in school. Our scientific institutions would be shut down. Our friends and family, particularly anyone who is not a straight white cis Christian conservative, will be in constant danger. It won’t be just an administrative handover that allows Canadians to get on with their lives. It will be brutal and punitive.
Which is why violent, disruptive resistance would be the norm. I’m talking making the Taliban look like a relief organization. I would happily make sure Americans fear for their lives every second of every day if it ever came to that and I know Im not alone in that. If I had to die as a result, as long as I take out 10 Americans before I do I’d die happy.
In other words, terrorize the fuckers until they go home.
We would, but what other choice would we have if if happened? Just kowtow to the US? Fuck that. Would it suck and make everything horrible? Yes, but not like Ukraine had an option when their war started.
We need to figure out how a smallish, largely unarmed population could make a large, heavily armed force wish they had never met us.
25 pc of the president’s base is evangelical. They want chaos, war, misery, to hasten the second coming (of angry vengeful jesus, none of that weak ass new testament bullshit,) where the faithful, them, get brought to heaven and the world drowns in lakes of blood and fire.
These people believe in nothing to advance the common good, the common good to them is pain, strife, and the end of the world.
Naturally they see the president and his puppet master in Israel making US and UK swells dance waving around tapes of them fucking children with epstein as a gift from god to bring on this rapture.
NGL I’d want Canada to annex us.
I’m in the PNW, it’s a fairly common sentiment around here.
I’m from MN, same here. Especially since the federal government despises us so much.
How about Canada Annexes the PNW and New England and the US annexes Alberta.
The upper midwest and ontario would be a good new country. Chicago to minnesota to michigan, all of michigan, huron, and superior.
It would have been a great country had it gone that way, and should Canada destabilize like the US maybe, but they’ve been pretty clear that they like being a whole country, and Ontario didn’t join us in the 18th century, and they’re unlikely to join up with some of us in the 21st. Also they definitely wouldn’t want Indiana. That said the upper Midwest (Ohio to Minnesota, maybe even transappalacian Pennsylvania) would make for a pretty good country to be a close ally of canada
I am 100 percent in agreement in leaving out Indiana. I would leave out ohio too, or just the northern third of illinois, indiana, ohio, and pennsylvania.
Because the south of those states are more confederate in nature. Idk pennslyvania though most is more eastern seaboard, the ne corridor cpuld be a couple countries, new england then ny to dc.
You understand a big problem Canadians have with Americans, is that even when you disagree with your “leader”, you’re still talking about carving up our country.
You know we find that incredibly disrespectful, right?
Pfft. Coming from the country whose geese flout our border controls with impunity, fake voting too I’m sure. Then you send all your lousy smokey air down here? Enough is enough. Build the Wall! Build the Wall! Build the Wall!
How about you guys get your house in order, fix your stupid gun laws, and then we can talk about something like North American Schengen. Quebec City to Chicago in high speed rail sounds like fun, you know?
That sounds lovely and like something I have argued for for my entire life and will continue to argue for. It’s currently unclear if the US will splinter, but I dream of a day when high speed rail can take someone from Vancouver to Mexico City
This is questionable. Partially because the knuckle draggers who support trump largely wouldn’t know what the word annex means.
That’s why it’s not that magical 33%
70% of Americans believe in angels. If you take the extreme end of that statistic you can just insert any crazy belief.
I want Canada, Denmark, or almost anyone else to annex the US west coast.
Maybe Canada could trade Alberta with the US in exchange for Oregon, Washington, and California.
And how many percent of them hesitated to say that they agree with that?
Only 66% were against, so you can safely assume that other 34% all really think we should but some of them just were smart enough not to say it out loud.
Considering you can get 30% of americans to agree with anything on a poll, 17% must be like the amount of americans who think like “autonomous” means “automobile maker” or something and are too embarrassed/overconfident to ask for clarification.
We’re in the justifying war goal against Canada part of the event chain
What percentage want another country to take over the US? If that question isn’t in that survey then its meaningless. Which it probably still would be no matter what. Most surveys target certain demographics to get the answers they want.
That is the amount of people we will have to disenfranchise when this is over. Probably just limit their rights to vote or enter in to a contract. Make sure they have no authority over anyone, especially a minor. The enemy of peace and stability has exposed themselves in the US and we have to render them harmless.
That’s the problem with democracy. If you truly believe in democracy, then everyone’s voices need to be heard.
Punishment won’t work. We need to systematically change education to make any lasting difference.
Nope there have always been people who didn’t get to vote or participate. I’m just proposing we do that to the ones who are the problem.
No. Not every voice needs to be heard. In a democracy, every voice should have the same opportunity to be heard. By saying every voice needs to be heard, you are saying everyone should listen to the fucknuts and assholes.
No.
These are clearly people with untreated traumatic head injuries. It would make sense to provide these people with better healthcare and reintroduce them into society when they can understand words or communicate that they don’t understand words.
Where in the world do you arrive at head injury? These people lack empathy and any moral compass. They are of low intellgence. The are just mean and they spread hate and pain with anyone they contact. They create chaos and sow discord.
One of the main side effects of head injuries is uncontrolled anger.
17% of Americans have read ‘Night Probe’ by Clive Cussler and think it’s a history book.
doubt
17% of Americans can throw themselves directly into a volcano.
After they’ve fucked themselves with a cactus
pretty sure they’d need assistance on that, so, eh. you know.
You think one of those rascal scooters could make it to the summit?
nope. they’re gonna have to hire sherpas or something.
I bet I could find some folks willing to do it for free out of the goodness of their hearts.
“I don’t want muh tax dollars going to foreigners!”
I have a feeling many of them would miss.
