• LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    4 months ago

    I feel like media literacy is more useful for preventing this crap than a scientific education would be, though both help to some degree.

  • ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    4 months ago

    I studied history (and by that I mean I liked to watch documentaries) and as a kid I saw educational cartoons and Anime (yes anime) that showed how there was a huge backlash against telephone and telegraphy when they first came out. With farmers blaming telegraph wire for destroying crops or crop diseases and they would sometimes even sabotage the wires and poles.

    When I heard of the 5G bullshit that was literally what came to mind… it is incredible how eternal this form of ignorance is.

    • Digit@lemmy.wtf
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      4 months ago

      And epistemology to help build the firewall’s list?

      “It is the mark of an educated mind, to be able to entertain an idea without necessarily accepting nor rejecting it” --Whoever said that.

    • Gloomy@mander.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      4 months ago

      I assume that i will disagree, but i think it mainly is because “the dogma of science” is a phrase that i immediately recognize as a right wing talking point.

      But since you kind of only put that out there and i don’t expect right wing idiots on Lemmy i’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and ask you to kindly elaborate a bit.

      What is the dogma of science? Who holds it? What sciences? All of them? Just STEM? And speaking of, who is obsessed with STEM? How and where does that obsession express itself?

      • CountryBreakfast@lemmygrad.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        4 months ago

        SCIENTISM

        Damn, even threatened with being call right-wing. Science folks always balk when it is ever brought up. I suppose I can understand having to “defend” scientific findings from the dogmas of creationists, but this doesn’t mean science and scientists are not vulnerable to dogma or to the very epistemological supremacism that has been the intellectual basis for genocide and empire building.

  • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    4 months ago

    We need to split the US up into two parts so we can do A/B testing.

    As others have said, the problem of vaccines isn’t that they don’t work. The problem of vaccines is that they work too well. They have completely eliminated the diseases that motivated their development, so people can’t imagine a world where these vaccines don’t exist anymore.

    We need to split the US up into two parts. One gets vaccines, the other one does not. Wait 30 years. Then the people will see the effects and then the people will understand why we should have vaccines. If the people don’t see the alternative scenario, they can’t see the difference that vaccines make. We need to make these differences more visual.

  • GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    4 months ago

    I have no scientific education. I am still not retarded enough to believe any of the nonsensical conspiracies found online.

    Could it be that the key here is media competence and not a doctors degree?

    • Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      4 months ago

      I’ve worked with doctors who believe this shit. When this all kicked off, they immediately discarded their education to embrace the Fox dogma.

      Area of study is definitely not the issue.