A nation that enslaves another forges its own chains.

The reason why Americans don’t do anything. The United States is the modern English empire.

Bruh, it’s never the scabs who are the real problem.

The constant is imperialism and class. We have technically been without both for most of the time modern homo sapiens have been around.

Yes, and Mom & Pop are also exploiting their own children for unpaid child labor.

This is the logic of fascism. It happened in colonialist empires everywhere.

There are examples in the US, South Africa, and Rhodesia where white workers unions organized to prevent black slave labor from taking their jobs.

This is also where a lot of the anti-Chinese racism came from because Chinese immigrants were replacing higher paying white rail-worker jobs. It was a point of conflict between the American white working class and the American bourgeoisie who would rather employ Chinese worker they could pay inhumanely low wages to (although the reason why they were so exploitable was because of racism).

It’s revisionist to say that this was entirely imposed upon workers from above. White workers were given the easier choice to improve conditions somewhat for themselves without risking much by punching down on colonized workers. In every scenario where this has happened in history, the majority of the racially privileged working class have always sided with colonialism against the colonized working class (it is a statistical law) because it was the safest and easiest way to guarantee some economic security.

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But the user who was talking about “Violent chest beating” was the other person, I thought.

But, I agree, the (mostly white) liberals who tried to compromise on Palestinians, trans people, immigrants, etc. to win absolutely deserve Trump. Idk if the marginalized people who fell for their tactics deserve it, though.

Fuck (but with less inexplicable downvotes)

Agriculture isn’t the main contributor to climate change and there are known solutions for reducing agricultural land-use like not eating meat. There is research on stuff like this and a sustainable global society of billions isn’t some unachievable goal because of how much humans need to eat.

Then they have to go.

Try shutting down imperialism from within a core country and you’ll see the resistance is much more than most living there are willing to risk.

What are you talking about? They said they’re marginalized person and nothing specifically about being a liberal. They said they would die for anti-fascism pretty much and you’re calling them a Nazi?

Their take has the politics of like the bleakest possible form of defeatism: giving up and letting it happen to you, while hoping that something good might come out of you being steam-rolled. They’re not a fascist.

Idk sometimes people gravitate to the most hopeless political positions they can find and adopt them because if suffering is inevitable, then you’re more able to accept it on your terms and it feels more manageable. There’s a good quote somewhere I can’t remember that says the apocalypse has become an escapist fantasy from the real world.