

Like I said, I don’t disagree that this is a possibility, but I’m curious how people see it unfolding. I like to leverage other minds to develop my thinking.


Like I said, I don’t disagree that this is a possibility, but I’m curious how people see it unfolding. I like to leverage other minds to develop my thinking.


I don’t disagree with you, but I feel like people jump to that scenario without describing the steps to get there. How do you see unfolding? How do different opposition groups respond such as the DNC? What about blue states? How does the administration handle it without losing popular consensus? Does it even matter? If they use the military, how do they get the military stay the path when the populous begins to reject their intervention?


While everything you say is mostly* true, it really doesn’t matter. Martial law gives the executive wide and indeterminate decision making.
WWII was not an insurrection so it was not grounds for martial law. The Civil War was seen as an international conflict initially and not an internal insurrection, but it becomes more complicated as it goes on. The 1807 Insurrection Act gives the president a lot of power. Trump has already postured that he can use it to deal with protests in Portland, OR.
* I say mostly true because Congress is granted the ability to determine when elections will happen.


Th real question is, can he declare martial law to prevent or delay the 2028 elections thus extending his second term indefinitely?


I’m a little sad that everyone’s focused on the coconut and missing the reference to the naked man who lives in a barell trolling the father of western philosophy.


Also not a nut.
Campfires


This is particularly impressive considering 48% of MIT’s funding is from the federal government. This is the largest percentage of any university.


The bare minimum is not getting his boss in trouble by some old lady that was upset that some dude wasn’t sitting correctly.


Slippery slope. First people are putting their feet up and then we descend into chaos. That’s pretty unhinged theory.


Oh my God! You’re her aren’t you? Damn.


Oh no! He’s getting mad because he’s getting removed for no reason! Very stupid.


Conveniently left out that it’s a $50 fine and not removal or arrest.



He literally says he refused to sit right on the MTAs seats.
No he did not. This is what he said.
this white woman said she didn’t like the way I was sitting on the train."
The Courts are, as you noted, already in line with or an ineffective hedge against the administration. I think there are other opposition groups. I suspect there are more than a few in the military who are willing to resist. Discounting military leaders has been the downfall of many rebellions.
Replacing personelle isn’t as easy as just putting someone loyal into the position. Execution requires competency and the counter elites don’t have experience to run things effectively save a few notable exceptions. They seem best suited to posturing, making grand proclamations, and breaking things. This is fine when you’re trying to destroy the old order, but building one is a lot harder.
I’m skeptical they can do this en mass without emboldening resistance at first. Your need a well staffed group of people to deal with this in hundreds of sites and willing to kill people. For everything the MAGA movement has done, they’ve never given a positivist vision for the future. Which is to say, what future are we creating that makes it worth killing people.
None of my critiques should be read as they can’t do it. Rather, these are strategic points at which interference could undermine their efforts.
As for blue states, I think most will gesture towards being offended greatly, but fail to create an effective opposition. I do think a couple will attempt a hot resistance. And if, say, a Pacific front opens, this could be difficult to deal with. Furthermore, pockets of resistence within red states will be very, very difficult to stamp out. Our large geography makes it very difficult to command and control.
I don’t think ICE, even as well funded as they are, have the trained pedosnelle or institutions to replicate anything like a military force. Hell, out military isn’t even well designed to be an effective occupation force.