Honestly didn’t know that Gelsinger was a bible thumper, after his time at Intel I figured he’d just retire and disappear.

a scholar at the University of North Carolina at Charlotte

Hahahahaha…wait, was that not a joke?

I used to want to work for the federal government and once upon a time it was a very good job. Decent, but not the best, pay along with good health benefits, large amounts (in US terms) of leave, extra holidays, and a pension program. Now I don’t see why anyone would want to work for the federal government. A common sentiment amongst government workers are that you are there for at least one of four things:

1.) Early retirement/pension - In the older days you could potentially fully retire as early as 50.

2.) Healthcare - You got to keep it into early retirement and it was typically better than any private or business insurance or medicare.

3.) Stability - Once in you would probably never be laid off or fired.

4.) Ulterior motives - A lot of government workers do what they do because they get something else out of it. Someone working at the EPA might get a sense of fulfillment and earnestly believe they are making a difference. Likewise someone working in ICE might be getting their failed-military-abuse-of-power rocks off on the bit of power they have over others.

Well the stability is gone, the pension only matters if you have the stability to get to 30 years, and the healthcare is getting worse over time.

First off, this is not my original account, I’ve been on two other instances that have closed and had to start new accounts twice. Second, I comment on Israel/Palestine Conflict posts because about half of the posts on this community are about that topic and the takes can be batshit crazy sometimes. If you want me to comment on more things then have more diverse topics.

What my own eyes see? You then sent a video where you can’t see shit, half the video it looks like he’s on the floor and they’re kicking the shit out of him. Also in another comment I stated that a big part of my difficulty to believe the issue is as wide spread as you are saying is because the overall poor standards of evidence and shitty journalism.

The incident of supposed rape started with a report that a prisoner had been transferred from the Sde Teiman camp with anus and rectal injuries, but every article I can find (from Haaertz, Times of Israel, Middle East Eye, Al Jazeera, and People’s Dispatch) only reference a report without saying where the report came from or who released it, it’s just a report that’s out there but no one knows where. Secondly the IDF went to the prison as part of their investigation and fought the guards because they were refusing to cooperate with military police. Yes right wing Israeli’s rioted, but that’s hardly proof that the entire country is onboard with that and each picture of the riot it’s like 50 people. Furthermore the IDF put one reservist in prison in February 2025 for punching handcuffed and blindfolded prisoners. To prove the point, there are cases going through the Israeli Supreme Court right now to potentially close the prison. The court has not yet decided to close the prison but they phased out long term detention in June 2024, issued a compliance order in September 2024, and in September 2025 made rulings that the government is intentionally denying prisoners adequate nutrition and must meet required prisoner standards.

Are some Israeli’s or members of the IDF doing these things, probably so, but I have a hard time believing it’s a systemic problem throughout their whole culture especially when no one can seem to provide any actual evidence, the IDF appear to be acting how they should to such allegations, and the country’s supreme court is actively making rulings against the government for the treatment of prisoners.

The standards of evidence/proof are so shitty that one person can say something on twitter, a journalist uses it as a reference for an article, their article gets copied a dozen times, and suddenly that counts as proof. Then a claim like this escalates with the logic that if it happened over here then it must be happening everywhere.

Largely in part because of an overall poor standard of evidence and multiple different forms of bias to perpetuate “proof.” A lot of people, even here, are pointing to the UN commission reports, but they don’t really look beyond the legitimacy of the UN to determine if it’s accurate.

The commission is made up of 3 people, at least one of which has made statements about jews controlling social media. In their report on their findings they state that their methodology for their reports was by pairing digital content with victim and witness testimony, but then state that the standard of proof was if 1 or more testimonies corroborated the digital content.

That’s not proof in my eyes.

These are disturbing links, if at face value they are true then this is truly disturbing. That said most of the information comes from second or third hand sources. It’s entirely possible that some Israeli’s are doing these things but it’s hard to believe that this is happening systemically throughout their entire military organization. It’s not forgivable and anyone doing it should be justly punished, but it seems crazy to assume that the mistreatment of prisoners is across the board as others have alleged.

I might be on the wrong side of history here, but it’s a bit hard to believe that jews in Israel are raping men, women, and children left and right.

Nursing homes and welfare homes are good at getting rid of bedbug infestations

They’re only good at it because without getting rid of bed bugs no one would choose to live there. If prisoners got to pick between prisons that had bed bugs and those that didn’t I would imagine prisons would get good at removing them as well.

And Israel’s sexual torture of Palestinian detainees is well documented with even video evidence shown on TV.

Ok, then give some evidence to support that, that’s what I asked for.

Let me just say, earnestly, THANK YOU. I haven’t read your link yet, but you are the first person to respond with an actual response to the given question. I’m gonna take a few minutes to read what you linked, if I have any thought’s I’ll post an edit.}

EDIT: This is disturbing news, but it’s hardly evidence of systemic actions. I like the BBC a lot, but the testimonies given aren’t surprising. I’m all for condemning the actions stated, but they are also second hand accounts. For example the account of sexual misconduct comes from only one person interviewed. I’m not unwilling to believe that some Israeli’s have done something illegal, but I’m not surprised either. Rage all anyone might want but the laws of war only matter if someone is willing to enforce them and it seems like the world won’t enforce them here, much to my disappointment.

No, you’re making a lot of unsubstantiated statements. Am I willing to believe that Greta is being treated differently than Gazan prisoners? Yeah, I can believe that. I could also believe that Greta is being treated similarly to how anyone without Hamas affiliations would be treated. What I don’t believe is that just because Greta has bed bugs in her cell Gazans are getting raped and electro tortured. Like I said, I don’t have a dog in the fight, but just because Greta is being treated like a prisoner doesn’t mean she’s being treated differently than other prisoners. Furthermore, having bed bugs doesn’t mean shit when bed bugs are a problem in every prison. Having bed bugs doesn’t mean other people are getting raped and electro shock tortured unless you have some evidence of that, which is the evidence I asked for.

Can’t you see that that is a very different argument? Just because Greta has bed bugs in her cell doesn’t prove that other prisoners have worse conditions. The OP said:

As a foreign famous activist she probably has a “good” treatment for a detainee. Imagine what the Gazan child hostages go through in Israeli prisons (spoiler: reported electrical shock torture and sexual crimes)

So the OP has setup a binary situation where Greta is getting bed bugs while Gazan’s are getting electrical shock torture and sexual crimes. I asked if the OP has any evidence to that because they created a false equivalency. Just because one prisoner has bed bugs doesn’t mean everyone else is getting electro shocked and raped.

Do you have any evidence to support that or are you just using conjecture? I don’t have a dog in the fight, but you’re literally making shit up out of thin air. Given how persistent bed bugs are I would imagine they are a significant problem in any prison in the world. Keeping bed bugs out is probably like trying to keep a cold/flu/covid out of any concentrated living facility (prison, nursing home, welfare home, or homeless shelter).

If hotels struggle to prevent bed bugs then you can be assured that prisons will too. If you’re gonna peacefully protest with the knowledge that you will be detained then you should also know that you’re gonna deal with jail/prison conditions which include bed bugs.