For privacy, security, and usability, GrapheneOS is the best alternative mobile os by far. The only downsides are if you don’t like or can’t afford Pixel phones, and even GrapheneOS won’t have certain features you may need such as mobile device management, google wallet nfc payments, certain apps especially banking apps.
Ah, wasn’t aware they were so far behind, thanks for the heads up.
Hadn’t heard of IodeOS either until seeing that chart. They also seem a bit slower than Lineage for certain updates, but for the more privacy minded, may be the best option for non-pixel folks.
ig, you could just buy used though or wait for their own device to be released via the upcoming OEM partnership. I wouldn’t be surprised if pixels are sold at a loss or break even point anyway, supplemented by surveillance capitalism and google play store revenue.
eos looks the most likely to me because of the partnership with murena; but i still hesitate because my sub-part experience using international brands within the united states and all of the lineage phones are either prohibitively ancient or international.
do you have any information on movement with any oems & graphene?
Don’t use eos if mobile security matters at all to you. It’s also not nearly as private as GrapheneOS and frequently phones home to Google.
my primary reasoning for an android alternative is to get out of google’s walled garden and security is 2nd.
the only aspect of mobile security that matters to me is that which protects me from national gov’ts & police and working as a software engineer & systems administrator for the last 20+ years has taught me that i’m hopelessly outclassed. so i chose to focus my efforts in the arenas where i can have any sort of impact and not financially supporting google is the only impact i can have. buying a pixel (either new or used) goes against this because i either give google the money for a new one or i help google with future sales by boosted pixel resale values with a used one.
i’ll be in line to buy a graphene device as soon as it’s available for something other than a pixel.
/e/ OS is not more secure than lineage. It tends to lag behind on security updates by months.
https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm
For privacy, security, and usability, GrapheneOS is the best alternative mobile os by far. The only downsides are if you don’t like or can’t afford Pixel phones, and even GrapheneOS won’t have certain features you may need such as mobile device management, google wallet nfc payments, certain apps especially banking apps.
Ah, wasn’t aware they were so far behind, thanks for the heads up.
Hadn’t heard of IodeOS either until seeing that chart. They also seem a bit slower than Lineage for certain updates, but for the more privacy minded, may be the best option for non-pixel folks.
are you aware of any lists for this like other one you shared?
Yes
https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compatibility-with-grapheneos/
thanks graphene is a non-starter for me since i refuse to give google anything more than i (unwittingly) already have.
ig, you could just buy used though or wait for their own device to be released via the upcoming OEM partnership. I wouldn’t be surprised if pixels are sold at a loss or break even point anyway, supplemented by surveillance capitalism and google play store revenue.
eos looks the most likely to me because of the partnership with murena; but i still hesitate because my sub-part experience using international brands within the united states and all of the lineage phones are either prohibitively ancient or international.
do you have any information on movement with any oems & graphene?
They’ve confirmed it’s happening but likely not until later this year or 2027
Don’t use eos if mobile security matters at all to you. It’s also not nearly as private as GrapheneOS and frequently phones home to Google.
my primary reasoning for an android alternative is to get out of google’s walled garden and security is 2nd.
the only aspect of mobile security that matters to me is that which protects me from national gov’ts & police and working as a software engineer & systems administrator for the last 20+ years has taught me that i’m hopelessly outclassed. so i chose to focus my efforts in the arenas where i can have any sort of impact and not financially supporting google is the only impact i can have. buying a pixel (either new or used) goes against this because i either give google the money for a new one or i help google with future sales by boosted pixel resale values with a used one.
i’ll be in line to buy a graphene device as soon as it’s available for something other than a pixel.