• nforminvasion@lemmy.world
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    24 hours ago

    Bruh… Orwell literally wrote about how authoritarian the British government was in the 50s. Of course 1984 was highly exaggerated at that point, but the point still stands.

    No, the world’s former premier colonizer is not okay. All that shit they did is turning inwards, just like in US. Not saying the common person deserves is, unlike weird tankies fetishizing suffering of the west as some kind of karmaic justice. The Global South is still suffering too. No one is having a good time.

    • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      4 hours ago

      Mate, after seeing and hearing all the arguments for the Leave Referendum and subsequent Brexit up close and personal as an EU immigrant in Britain, the “common person” there definitely deserves this shit.

      The country is so ridiculously Jingoist that even the Remainers arguments were “We should stay in the EU and change it from the inside” (i.e. “We know best and the rest of Europe should follow us”). It was incredibly rare to hear somebody wanting to stay in the EU because “together we’re strong” or “we should cooperate for the common good”.

      So, yeah, even many if not most Remainers deserve this shit.

      • nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de
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        4 hours ago

        I’ll give some of the “change it from the inside”ers, the benefit of the doubt that they were going for swing votes.

        The Russians spent a lot of time and money convincing the UK rubes to leave too, but they still fell for it.

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          4 hours ago

          I was there: the cunts pushing that shit the hardest were born and bred posh British politicians and they were given plenty of airtime and newspaper space for literally decades, well before the actual Referendum.

          Blaming Russia is just more of the usual “blame foreigners” scapegoating. In fact, “blame the EU” use to be the most common way to excuse the problems in their country until Brexit.

          First step to solve the problem is admit you have a problem, not blame everybody else.