President Donald Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner said Wednesday he and Middle East envoy Steve Witkoff would travel to Moscow after talks in Abu Dhabi to end the Ukraine war concluded with no clear breakthrough.
Europe should begin its own negotiations with Putin.
That should have happened years ago. There’s no logical reason for Europe to abandon its leadership claim on this issue to the United States and it’s indicative of what’s wrong with Europe these days.
Russia will withdraw from all land it seized from Ukraine after the 2022 invasion.
What about Crimea? Zelensky has openly stated that Ukraine will not give it up, ever.
NATO would be dissolved and replaced with a European alliance.
Don’t threaten the United States with a good time. I’d add that there will be no do-overs; the United States will never again enter into a NATO type alliance nor ride to Europe’s rescue when shit flies off the rails. That last part is important because we’re watching European instability growing in real time. If something doesn’t change there were will another broad war on the continent in my lifetime.
Ukraine and Canada would be permitted to join but not the US.
I’d sign off on that deal as long as it contained the previous “no do-over” provision.
All sanctions against Russia will be lifted.
Europe doesn’t control all the sanctions. They can only negotiate within their own powers.
Russia will not be required to pay reparations.
I doubt that would get much support from Ukraine.
If Putin doesn’t accept the proposal, the UK and France would send troops to Ukraine.
Hooo boy…
The UK is a spent force. Without it’s nuclear arsenal, which the US controls, it has insufficient quantity of anything to really tilt the field. Meanwhile France is burning itself to the ground over an unsustainable and unsolvable debt load that has the possibility of literally ending the Euro. If that’s not enough next years French Presidential elections could bring Melenchon to power, who iss increasingly being described as “The Kremlin’s Spokesperson”.
So threatening Putin with the UK and France is likely to produce no real fruit unless he knows the US is backstopping their effort and that wouldn’t be likely to happen with this proposal.
This is also an extremely US / Euro centric take with very little that Ukraine would support and several things that it would probably actively lobby against.
Putin will not give up Crimea. It’s better to cede Crimea than much more territory which is what Trump wants.
Yes, the US would never be permitted to enter the European alliance, but it would be permitted to send forces to Europe if Europe is attacked. However, the US would not be allowed to practice for such an attack on European soil.
I’m sure the US would follow if Europe lifted sanctions because the US alone wouldn’t have much effect.
Putin will never pay reparations. It’s better for Ukraine to not get reparations from Russia than accept Trump’s proposal which certainly will mean giving up a lot of territory.
Putin has to be threatened with military force if he rejects the proposal. Other European countries could replace the UK and France but those are the best countries. There can’t be too many countries because Putin would complain he’s being overwhelmed and must go nuclear.
That should have happened years ago. There’s no logical reason for Europe to abandon its leadership claim on this issue to the United States and it’s indicative of what’s wrong with Europe these days.
What about Crimea? Zelensky has openly stated that Ukraine will not give it up, ever.
Don’t threaten the United States with a good time. I’d add that there will be no do-overs; the United States will never again enter into a NATO type alliance nor ride to Europe’s rescue when shit flies off the rails. That last part is important because we’re watching European instability growing in real time. If something doesn’t change there were will another broad war on the continent in my lifetime.
I’d sign off on that deal as long as it contained the previous “no do-over” provision.
Europe doesn’t control all the sanctions. They can only negotiate within their own powers.
I doubt that would get much support from Ukraine.
Hooo boy…
The UK is a spent force. Without it’s nuclear arsenal, which the US controls, it has insufficient quantity of anything to really tilt the field. Meanwhile France is burning itself to the ground over an unsustainable and unsolvable debt load that has the possibility of literally ending the Euro. If that’s not enough next years French Presidential elections could bring Melenchon to power, who iss increasingly being described as “The Kremlin’s Spokesperson”.
So threatening Putin with the UK and France is likely to produce no real fruit unless he knows the US is backstopping their effort and that wouldn’t be likely to happen with this proposal.
This is also an extremely US / Euro centric take with very little that Ukraine would support and several things that it would probably actively lobby against.
Putin will not give up Crimea. It’s better to cede Crimea than much more territory which is what Trump wants.
Yes, the US would never be permitted to enter the European alliance, but it would be permitted to send forces to Europe if Europe is attacked. However, the US would not be allowed to practice for such an attack on European soil.
I’m sure the US would follow if Europe lifted sanctions because the US alone wouldn’t have much effect.
Putin will never pay reparations. It’s better for Ukraine to not get reparations from Russia than accept Trump’s proposal which certainly will mean giving up a lot of territory.
Putin has to be threatened with military force if he rejects the proposal. Other European countries could replace the UK and France but those are the best countries. There can’t be too many countries because Putin would complain he’s being overwhelmed and must go nuclear.
Putin is giving up Crimea whether he agrees to or not.